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I was looking at ebay auctions for notes and I see the term Mule alot Example: MULE-NOTE THIS IS A SILVER CERTIFICATE-MULE ! NO RESERVE ! CERTIFIED-PMG-GOOD 6 Tim
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A mule is a cross breed between a horse and a donkey.   Sorry about that, I just had to write that. From Heritage Auction Galleries website: "Mule notes occur on both Large- and small-size notes. On Large-size notes beginning in 1921 when Frank White took office, new back plates were also created for notes being printed, however, the location of the plate number was changed! Detailed information can be found in "The Comprehensive Catalog of United States Large Size Star Notes" by Doug Murray. A small-size mule is a note that has a micro plate number on one side and a macro plate number on the other. Micro numbers measure 0.6mm and macros measure 1mm high. During the transition to all macro plates, both micro and macro plates were in use. Usually these different plates were side-by-side on the same press. This occurred because the BEP had a standard economic policy of using up obsolete plates rather than scrapping them. Whenever micro faces are paired with macro backs, or macro faces are paired with micro backs, a mule is produced. Some mule notes are scarce, while some are not. Sometimes the non-mule note is scarcer than the mule note for a given series. Mules are an intriguing part of collecting small size United States paper money."
Edited by collect4fun 05/12/2007 10:56 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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Pillar of the Community
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Thanks. This is what I was looking at. It is a 1899 $5 Silver Certificate. I have been wanting to buy one of these for a long time. http://cgi.ebay.com/1899-5-PAPA-CHI...-6_W0QQitemZ230128379681QQihZ013QQcategoryZ3417QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem My currency book does not show what it is worth for that low of a grade.....
Edited by Tpatna 05/12/2007 11:01 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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Without the folds thru the chiefs nose, that would be a nice note.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Short and sweet answer, it is a coin struck by an obv and reverse die (or in the case of paper a front and back plate) there were not intended to be used together.
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Rest in Peace
Australia
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Excellent description Condor101. I would have expected to see some Aussie comments on this thread by now but I don't think that there's not much more you can add to the above. regards,
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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everyones description is exactly correct. Here is an example on a coin, the coin that was struck with the Washington quarter Obverse and the Sacagawea's reverse. Hence the description a obverse die paired with a reverse die that wasn't meant to be paired with
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Pillar of the Community
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OK. I agree with the coin description, however this is a $5 Note ? How does Mule pertain to a Note ?
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Pillar of the Community
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quote: How does Mule pertain to a Note ?
collect4fun explains that under his "horse & donkey" comment.
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Pillar of the Community
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Tim. See what happens sometimes when you open a window here,a horse and a donkey collect4fun you are so silly and fast to.  Bruce.
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Pillar of the Community
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Yea, I knew when I was asking this question, the humor would start rolling.
Looks like there is no real answer for this and the seller of the $5 Note just don't know what he is typing ?
I think I will pass and try to get a higher grade note
Thanks all, Tim
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That is a reasonable price for that note. They are very expensive. But I think you would be doing the smart thing by buying a better grade. Most people wont buy paper money unless its CU. Ty
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Bedrock of the Community
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OK I'm outside my field here but I know the paper money specialists do a lot of study on the seriel number runs and what front and back plates were used with what signature combinations etc. I would suspect that the back plate used for that note #1187 was used for the Elliot/Burke signature combination and was not supposed to be used for the Elliot/White signature combination.
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Now I have to go back and watch Two Mules for Sister Sarah because I think I totally missed the point.
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