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1822 Capped Bust Half Dollar...error?

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 Posted 05/04/2013  7:11 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add amichael02 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello all, new to this site. I purchased a 1822 capped bust today and got home and was looking at it closer. I think the reverse is rotated, does this affect value? do any of you have an idea to its value? almost clueless on errors and die varieties.

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 Posted 05/04/2013  7:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome to Coin Community, amichael02. Nice to have you here.

If, as I assume, you just flipped the coin for the camera, I expect the reverse to be upside-down compared to the obverse. That's how US coins are struck. By that measure, this is still what we call a "rotated die," maybe 15 or 20 degrees as it's measured because (again, if I have it right) the coin should be exactly upside-down as pictured. Interesting, cool, but not extraordinary. Value would be related to grade (small pics, but I'm thinking EF45) and rarity by variety (which I started typing too early to determine yet).

If you paid $150 or less, now would be a good time to pour a toast. I'd be proud to own this one. Some features make me worry a bit about cleaning, but it's a strongly-struck coin and a pleasure to look at.
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 Posted 05/04/2013  7:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amichael02 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
paid $50
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 Posted 05/04/2013  7:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amichael02 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As far as cleaning, I had the same concern, there is marking on the v of the neck that is odd to me.
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 Posted 05/04/2013  7:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I was more worried about what seem to be horizontal lines on the left side of the obverse. It don't matter; for $50, you'd best already be pouring.

Enjoy a good buy. Doesn't matter at that price.
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 Posted 05/04/2013  7:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amichael02 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, thanks :)Those marks are not present on the coin in person, odd.
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 Posted 05/04/2013  8:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Joe2007 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice buy! Borderline XF/AU in my opinion. May have had a light cleaning but it still might grade problem free at a major TPG. Worth considerably more than $50.
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 Posted 05/04/2013  9:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NathanASE to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
and WOW, $50 is an amazing price for this coin! If you dont mind me asking where did you get it for that price? I'd buy these all day at $50, you got a fabulous deal! I'm at EF-40-45 on this one, and I love the rotated die, not overly rare but very cool none the less, adds a bit of uniqueness, IMHO at least.. Nice pick up!!
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 Posted 05/04/2013  10:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chetzler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting! I have an 1823 Capped Bust half-dollar and amichael02's post prompted me to pull it out and re-examine it. I think it exhibits the same rotation: does anyone else concur? I can't believe I never took note of it before, I was unaware of any rotated dies for this type.

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 Posted 05/04/2013  10:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smokeriderdon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Definitely XF45 minimum. I am not seeing anything that says cleaning. What I see appears to be on the 2x2 plastic. As mentioned, that was one heck of a deal!
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 Posted 05/04/2013  11:10 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very well done indeed! Welcome to the CCF amichael02!
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 Posted 05/05/2013  01:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Drsandman2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hey! Nice coin and good buy. If IHCs didn't suck me in, it would have been the bust halves. I have a feeling it will happen when I get out of grad school.
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 Posted 05/05/2013  01:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amichael02 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you all very much! I like this coin a lot. I posted an ad for old coins in local publication and ended up getting this coin out of a pile of old stuff this gentleman had. His wife was making him sell of some of his collection and I threw an offer down on it.
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 Posted 05/05/2013  01:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amichael02 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Considering sending it off for grading, however not sure if the price of grading is worth it. Thoughts?
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 Posted 05/05/2013  01:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Drsandman2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't think it is worth sending in - you can use that $50 bucks to buy another coin. BUT! Flatten those staples. You can flatten them with a butter knife. I'd recommend a stapler that staples the back flat. They are not so common, for whatever reason. At Office Depot, they had at least 50 different staplers and only one that stapled flat. And it was like $40.

I bought mine from Wizard, when I got a bunch of other supplies. http://www.wizardcoinsupply.com/pro...ll-size.html
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 Posted 05/05/2013  03:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amichael02 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the tip!! I must say, I rather enjoy these forums!
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