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Valued Member
Australia
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I bought it.(don't have it yet) Now I would like to know if it is genuine planchet damage or PMD. What is the likely cause or deceptive practice if it is PMD? Be gentle.  Item No. 221222293238 |
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Formerly nancyc
Australia
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Looks like it has a heap of super glue or clear resin on it, PMD would be my guess. life is a mystery to be lived not a problem to be solved
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Valued Member
 Australia
236 Posts |
Thanks nancyc, was hoping for a different answer LOL.
But only ever want the reality.
So what I see as furrows in the planchet you see as raised and applied?
I see missing and you see extra added.
Thanks for your thoughts.
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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Yeh its either stained by some sort of liquid or has some sort of clear resin or glue still stuck to it. I saw this the other day and thought about posting it as a dodgy listing.
If youre unsure in the future then it would be a great idea to ask here. I'm sure no one will poach your coin and it could save you some heartache.
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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not PMD for me the damage is under the letters look at the last A in Australia error for shore very nice buy well done something I would collect looks like the die exploded |
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
1607 Posts |
It looks as if it's had small pools of acid placed on it to me. Definitely PMD whatever has caused it. |
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Valued Member
Australia
236 Posts |
Thanks for all the thoughts. I must confess I like Shane's the best. I can't get the pics to show on that listing, anyone else having trouble? |
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
1607 Posts |
Sorry but this ain't no mint error,Acid or Heat ! [URL="http://s389.photobucket.com/user/appeangel07_photos/media/29-9-08/new%20coin%20album/KGrHqQOKosFF0BgkSmBRhK0VU5nw60_57_zps5daf805a.jpg.html]  [/URL] Edited by appleangel07
05/10/2013 08:33 am
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
4411 Posts |
It looks more like staining than resin or glue to me. Either way still PMD. |
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Valued Member
Australia
236 Posts |
I'm certainly not going to argue with experience but I don't think it is acid. Acid doesn't leave a shiny surface in my experience, more of a grainy one.
Acid also wouldn't explain the damage on the reverse.
Heat I don't have enough experiences with to judge so can only accept that as a possibility.
But the jury remains at large imo .... for now. lol
Thanks again all of you.
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Valued Member
Australia
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I guess you'll know when you get it. Fingers crossed that you have purchased the planchet from hell! The area between "T" and the last "A" of Australia looks like a "clean area" of the coin (apart from that mess next to the queen's nose). The surrounding area appears to be raised, as if something clear is sitting on top.
Edited by sfitzernator
05/10/2013 08:47 am
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Valued Member
Australia
236 Posts |
I have a small collection of forged coins so if it is deliberate PMD then it will just go in there with it's peers. I have dealt with the seller before and she seems a straight shooter, doesn't mean she hasn't been deceived of course. Appleangel07 would you mind if I copied and used that pic you put up? It is far better than I could ever do. I would give credit to you anytime I do. Sorry if it is inappropriate to even ask. |
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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from what I see all the A are above the damage from the Z to the crown there is a die crack and the dark black line follows the crack
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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Appleangel07 would you mind if I copied and used that pic you put up? Yeah no worries Darge,it's the sellers pic anyway,i just cropped it & auto-fixed it. |
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Valued Member
Australia
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Thanks appleangel07. I will ask the seller too. Hi Shane, I hope you are right mate. Like you I don't believe the coin can be 'quickly' dismissed as PMD. There are parts that defy logic as far as PMD goes. I respect the knowledge and experience of this forum and I'd say I am expecting to find that it is PMD but I want to be convinced with logic, I want to learn and understand, within reason. These 2 bits intrigue and mystify me if it is PMD. The first A of Australia is clearly sitting over the top of damage, as is the T. And so is the central area between the [Eliz.] 11 and the first A of Australia. The damage is under the hairline, the hairline is undamaged and the damaged area is unaffected. This flies in the face of PMD. imo Doesn't it? |
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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I don't think that the coin looks like it has any die cracks, raised areas or damage. I think that different shades of the stain have resulted in that appearance.
You will find out soon enough.
Edited by enworb
05/10/2013 10:28 am
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