German States Waldeck-Pyrmont Thaler 1824 F.w.

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rooneydog Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 739 Posts	Posted 05/12/2013 09:43 am Item weighs 29.44 grams and is 40mm in diameter. Has anyone seen this faked before ? Comments on this coin please. Thanks in advance. Report this Post to the Staff

alganbagerap Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 2490 Posts	Posted 05/12/2013 10:14 am This looks good to me, do you have any reason to suspect that it's a wrong'un? Report this Post to the Staff
platinrubel Valued Member Austria 194 Posts	Posted 05/12/2013 10:17 am its a cast fake of the so called "palmtaler" they are en masse to find on ebay ;-) look: http://www.waldecker-muenzen.de/ind...nnr=&seite=7 on this site, you'll find all facts of this coin. Edited by platinrubel 05/12/2013 10:22 am Report this Post to the Staff
wonghinghi Pillar of the Community Hong Kong 1270 Posts	Posted 05/12/2013 10:34 am Real or fake, both never seen for its scarcity. The lustre of your coin looks odd, it looks really like a cast forgery but the weight and diameter should be correct. Can you show the edge of this coin? Report this Post to the Staff
platinrubel Valued Member Austria 194 Posts	Posted 05/12/2013 10:39 am no this coin is a bit underweight and a bit to small.in diameter. what´s about the thickness? Report this Post to the Staff
Bacchus2 Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 2870 Posts	Posted 05/12/2013 10:40 am Interestingly Davenport illustrates one with exactly the same concentric ring marring the obverse near the outer rim. A real one should have a slanted reeded or ornamental edge My Papal States coin collection: https://diadumenian.com/Papal%20Sta...0States.html Medieval coins collection: https://diadumenian.com/Congressofp...0Europe.html Indian Rupee Collection: https://diadumenian.com/Congressofp...0Rupees.html Minor world Silver: https://diadumenian.com/Congressofp...20coins.html Report this Post to the Staff
rooneydog Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 739 Posts	Posted 05/12/2013 10:45 am I've searched the web trying to find a fake but couldn't find one. Given the wear I would say it is overweight. Thickness 2mm Report this Post to the Staff
platinrubel Valued Member Austria 194 Posts	Posted 05/12/2013 11:05 am this is a real one: http://www.mcsearch.info/ext_image.html?id=280968 and here a comparition of real and fake: http://www.waldecker-muenzen.de/str...etailbig.jpg Report this Post to the Staff
rooneydog Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 739 Posts	Posted 05/12/2013 11:10 am Thanks platinrubel - any idea what it's made of ? Edited by rooneydog 05/12/2013 11:13 am Report this Post to the Staff
platinrubel Valued Member Austria 194 Posts	Posted 05/12/2013 1:33 pm it might be made of something like a tin-lead alloy. Report this Post to the Staff
rooneydog Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 739 Posts	Posted 05/12/2013 2:01 pm That ties up with my rough calculation of 11 g / cm3 if it's mainly lead, thanks Edited by rooneydog 05/12/2013 2:04 pm Report this Post to the Staff
platinrubel Valued Member Austria 194 Posts	Posted 05/12/2013 2:09 pm you are welcome. where from did you buy it? ebay? Report this Post to the Staff
rooneydog Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 739 Posts	Posted 05/12/2013 2:13 pm Part of a joblot of odds of ebay Report this Post to the Staff
platinrubel Valued Member Austria 194 Posts	Posted 05/12/2013 2:53 pm thats the reasson because I never buy coins at ebay or similar sites. greets Report this Post to the Staff
SarahPauline New Member 2 Posts	Posted 08/03/2019 05:09 am Why does it look real to me#65311; l think it is great#65281; Report this Post to the Staff
tdziemia Pillar of the Community United States 7935 Posts	Posted 08/03/2019 08:15 am If you look at the post from platinrubel 5/12/2013 11:05 a.m., you will see a side-by-side comparison of real and fake. The palm leaves, lettering, etc. are all quite different if you study the photos. and Report this Post to the Staff
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