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1952y. Australian Penny Question

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Renniks shows 4 different figure 2s for the Perth 1952 penny. All are considered v/scarce or rare. What would be considered as the common '2' in this coin? TIA.
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 Posted 05/19/2013  02:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mr T to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Which Renniks book (varieties or catalogue)? Maybe the different 2's are present on pennies from different mints.
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Okay, here's some more information on the matter if you haven't seen it already: http://www.thesandpit.net/index.php...=1952A_penny
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The Perth Mint used at least 4 different dies, to produce 4 different 2's, on the 52 penny. What I am not sure of, was their a fifth '2' die that would be classed as 'common' coin? PS : Renniks variety book - 2nd Edition.
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Maybe it depends on the definition of scarce. I don't know how many dies there actually are (my Fred Lever guide gives 8 different dates, my earlier link gives 5) but both Fred Lever's book and my earlier link give one date variety as being very common compared to the rest.
Maybe the scarceness refers to the Melbourne coins being minted in greater quantities than the Perth coins in 1952?
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Thanks for all your help. Another day another noodle.
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Hi Robster ...... from the 1975 Renniks (c) to them

Normal:

1952y.-Australian-Penny-Question

4 Varieties follow:

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1952y.-Australian-Penny-Question
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Hope this helps!
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I hope you manage to find at least one of each.
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thanks guys, will do some more noodling tonight. Will report results later. thanks again.!!
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Hello everyone,
I'd like to ask a question if I might, I get a little confused on the mint marks, according to my Rennicks pre-decimal varieties both the Y. and A. are Perth Mint. In my first addition it has the very same date (52) configuration as above for the A.
Please look at this url, I think what I have is an A. Perth Mint B63a with a great die crack through AUSTRALIA. The Ian McConnelly book 1st Edition doesn't seem to mention a Y. The Rennicks coin and Banknote metions both an A. and Y. Perth Mint coin, or am I reading this all wrong.

http://www.noblecoins.org/c.jpg

Thanks,
Dave
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1952 Perth Penny had the dot after Australia. (A.) great die crack regardless of what type of 2.
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It almost turns block letters into runningwriting!
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Robster,
I'm not sure if I am understanding all the I am reading from these books, look at this page:

http://www.noblecoins.org/pa.jpg

That does mean both ( Y.) coins and ( A.) are Perth Mint correct. I have so much trouble understanding what's in these books.
For example in the the Rennicks variety book they have columns DATE, MINT, MARK, and then OBV/REV, under the OBV/REV they may have L/L or L/B. Is that to say (L/B)means the Obverse die was made in London and the Reverse die made in Bombay?
As you can see I am very confused, I can spend hours on a single coin with photos and identification and still not feel 100% that I got it all correct.
I sure appreciate all the help you guys on the forum are providing.

Dave
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Daveyn
The letters L/B would mean the master Obverse was from London and the master Reverse was from Birmingham. Any Bombay dies were used in Bombay in 1942 and 1943 (both obverse and reverse).
I find Jon Saxtons website the best for sorting out die pairings (Triton.VG)
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Thanks for the web info, looks like he has quite a bit of useful information posted on-line. I've been collecting the US Flying Eagle and Indian cent series it seems forever. It's pretty clear cut and easy, the Australian Penny can have so many different things to catalog on each coin it becomes a little confusing after a while.
The postage on the publications usually cost more than the book itself, so I like to be sure of what it is I'm buying before I purchase. I'm not sure how much has been added to the 2nd Edition of the Australian Pre-Decimal coin Varieties, but I suspect that should be my first purchase.

Thanks again for the help,


Dave
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