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Rest in Peace
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I contacted the seller; if he's not an SLQ guy he won't know. My worry is, does PCGS try to wiggle out from under this as a "clerical error?"
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United States
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The certification number checks out on the PCGS web sight, but that doesn't mean its not a counterfeit slab. Makes you wish PCGS would provide a picture of the coin like NGC does.
The picture of the coin is not very clear. It would be nice to see the head area in more detail. I'm no expert but the diagnostics that you can see look like a 1917 to me. But what do I know.
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The bottom of the gown is all it takes. It's unequivocal.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Not only did they get the date wrong but it looks like a mighty strong FR2 to me. VG obverses have that much detail. nlp
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Quote: I contacted the seller; if he's not an SLQ guy he won't know. My worry is, does PCGS try to wiggle out from under this as a "clerical error?" Forgot to address this... I had a similar occurrence with a 1903-S small S mint mark and they just blew it off and recommended sending it in for a new/correct slab identification which doesn't not address the enormity of value. I don't have any faith in them making good on their mistake. This coin was sent in by an unsuspecting collector at best with PCGS coin#5704 on the submittal form probably because he thought it may be a 1916 SLQ of significant value. In my estimation it's up to PCGS to identify the coin and date and make the necessary corrections to the coin# and title as appropriate. After all.....what does the letter "P" stand for in PCGS. I wouldn't hold my breath though. nlp
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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While the seller may out, part of me hopes this a counterfeit slab. As much as I dislike slabs, I hate to see a professional company in the numismatic community make this kind of mistake. I think it reflects poorly on the hobby over all.
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Pillar of the Community
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Wow..the coin shows no diagnostics of a 1916, not even close.
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Pillar of the Community
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My question to auction owner: Are you the original submitter of this coin to PCGS? Reason for asking is this coin is NOT a 1916 coin and should have been put in a 1917 labeled slab.
His reply: yes I am the original submitter.
Still 3 1/2 hours to go.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Quote: Wow... the coin shows no diagnostics of a 1916, not even close. 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I really like looking/commenting on diffirentiating the 1916/1917 SLQ....but it will have to wait until I getto the house 
Edited by oih82w8 05/23/2013 1:15 pm
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I never heard back from the seller. The winning bidder is pretty experienced (over 1000 Feedbacks), but this was the only Quarter in his listed bidding history. Not good.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Follow up question regarding PCGS and 1916 SLQs. I did a cert check out of curiosity and it said that FR02 has a population of 9. Does that sound right? 
Edited by CoinsKelly 05/23/2013 4:06 pm
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Quote: His reply: yes I am the original submitter.
When he filled out the submittal form he had to have put 1916 as the date of the coin and the graders at PCGS should have caught the fact that this coin does not have the diagnostics of a 1916 so it would seem this seller was hoping they wouldn't catch the coin was a 1917 AND that any potential buyer on ebay wouldn't know what to look for either. Ed ANA LM-3175
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Quote: Wow..the coin shows no diagnostics of a 1916, not even close.  Definitely a 1917
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United States
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Buy the coin, not the slab.
Even with their buy back guarantee or whatever THEY are the ones determining if they will buy it back and you are usually on the losing end.
Weak shield rivets are the thing I look for on a 1916
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