1964 D Peace Dollar - Things That Make Ya Go Hmmmmmmmmmm

I never understood why the mint didn't send a few examples to the Smithsonian National Collection. It would have been nice to see a few preserved examples.

If someone who has a lot of influence taking the coins homes means they were destroyed, then yes I believe that.

And if by 2 they mean 10-20 then yes I would believe that too.

Not to mention who would report finding 2 coins that supposedly dont exist in the first place to have them destroyed

Donkrx no matter how interesting any of the back stories the coins may have, it really just comes down to because they said so.

As for the 1913 it probably had to do with the time. They probably figured there was no way to find them and just let it slide.

Wikipedia has this story about it "The first information that a 1913 Liberty head nickel might have been struck came in December 1919, when coin dealer Samuel W. Brown placed advertisements in numismatic publications, offering to buy any such nickels. In August 1920, Brown displayed one such coin at the annual American Numismatic Association ( ANA) convention.[34] Brown related that a master die had been prepared for the 1913 Liberty head nickels, and a few pieces had been run off to test the die.[35] As it turned out, Brown possessed five coins, which he eventually sold. After spending fifteen years in the hands of the eccentric Col. E.H.R. Green, the famous Fort Worth, Texas, area collector, the coins were finally dispersed in 1943. Since then, the coins have had several owners each. Today, two are on public display--at the Smithsonian Institution in Washington and the ANA's Money Museum in Colorado Springs, while three are owned privately. The most recent sale of a 1913 Liberty Head nickel was in January 2010, when one sold for $3,737,500 in an auction.[36]

It is uncertain how the 1913 nickels came to be made. The Mint's records show no production of 1913 Liberty head nickels, and none were authorized to be made.[37] Dies were prepared in advance and sent to California for a 1913-S Liberty Head nickel coinage, but upon Roberts's instruction to stop coinage, they were ordered returned to Philadelphia. They were received by December 23, and were almost certainly destroyed routinely by early January.[38] Brown had been an employee at the Philadelphia Mint (although this was not known until 1963) and many theories focus suspicion on him"

Typical government attitude. In 1933 all of the 1933 double eagles were accounted for. In 1935 all of the 1933 double eagles were destroyed. In 1944 they were asked how come the one up for auction was so valuable? they confiscated it traced it back to Swit and found out from him that he had sold nine of them. They tracked down an confiscated 8 and the 9th was in the Farouk collection NOW they are all accounted for. Eliasberg asked does that mean I can keep mine? No! and it was confiscated. NOW they are ALL accounted for. Oh by the way the Langborn family has ten of them . Those are ours too! OK NOW ALL OF THEM ARE ACCOUNTED FOR!! Did you know there is a photo of one from 1980 that doesn't match any and the known specimens?

The 1933 double eagles have ALL been accounted for at least five times now and there are still pieces out there.

Do 1964-D dollars exist? I don't know but it would not surprise me if they do. I know of at least two dollar specialists how have told me that they have seen specimens. I suspect Breen also saw some. Breens standard answer when asked if they exist was always a firm NO!, while nodding his head up and down. I took that to mean that he had seen them but that his "official" answer was that they did not.

The two that turned up in 1970 weren't so much in a vault as a filing cabinet. They were part of the 30 pieces sent by the Mint to Congress so they could see the new coins. I know Roger Burdette covered the disposition of those 30 pieces in the RedBook of Peace dollars but I don't have my copy at hand and I don't remember what he had to say about them or how their destruction was handled. Considering two of them were discovered by accident in 1970 would seem to indicate that it may not have been handled too well. Or those two coins may be mentioned in the destruction records as being in the archives I don't know.

Now, about the Carr Dollar legality question...

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kcaven, they are not talking about MS64 graded Peace dollars...but proto-type Peace dollars minted in 1964