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Cardboard 2x2s Or Mylar Saflips?

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I like cardboard 2x2s with the mylar window. I use these for a number of reasons:
1. They are cheap at around $3.50 per 100 at a LCS
2. They are easy to use, I would recommend a flat clinch stapler if storing in an album page
3. Easy to organize and label. There is more room to write on the cardboard with a fine tip marker
4. Gives a great view in an album
5. You can easily remove it from an album page if/when you want to replace it with a higher grade.
6. Easy to ship in if you ever sell.
7. Minimal movement of the coin, I found that the flips allow some movement

All of this is, of course, just my opinion. I have found that this system works for me. Find what works for you!
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 Posted 08/12/2013  04:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pheroow to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Can someone help me pwease? :3
I prefer 2 pocket clear flips, where you store the coin in one pocket and a paper note in the other.
I want to know is it safe to store coins in these NON-PVC flips?
Safe as in leave them in the flips for lots and lots of years, more than 10 years most probably.
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NON PVC flips are fine for decades long storage.
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a single staple right above the coin through only the one side of the flip will most likely keep the coin from moving around much causing the scuffing I mentioned in my earlier post.
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As a UK collector I find this thread interesting.

I see some people have mentioned writing on 2x2s or putting a slip into the flip with details of your coins.

I wondered whether you all also keep details of where you bought/found your coin and, if bought, who owned it previously? And if so, what form does the record take?

I ask because several of my coins have come from earlier collections and I always like to record details of these. Sadly not all dealers or auction houses (all my coins went out of circulation many years ago so I have to buy them) keep or pass on such information.

In the 'old days' collectors here often used to keep a record of their coins on what are conventionally called 'tickets'. Small paper disks a bit bigger than the coin itself. That's because many collections were stored in cabinets, with the coins sitting in recesses in a tray like drawer. The ticket could be tucked under the coin (which usually sat on a felt disk to protect it from friction) for easy access. Like this:

Cardboard-2x2s-Or-Mylar-Saflips?

Fewer collectors use tickets (or coin cabinets) these days and I guess many records are now electronic. But I like the traditional approach myself!

So what records do you keep and how?

(Oh, and if not in my cabinet, I store coins in small acid-free paper envelopes I buy from a dealer. I used to use hard plastic versions of 2x2s, but I like to be able to pick up my coins without viewing them through plastic!)

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Tom, On my 2x2s, I write the Country of Origin on the upper left, date on the upper right, denomination just under the date. On the lower left, I write any significance about the metal/error/variety. Bottom middle, my code for the amount I paid or where I got it, Lower right is for grade. On the back, I will sometimes write anything that did not fit on the front such as weight, story of how I got it, and any other descriptions. Also, I have electronic records to go along with my coins.
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Like Tom, I'm also a cabinet / tray guy and use tickets (I also refer to them as roundles - which I picked up when I worked in the numismatics section of a museum).

I also keep an electronic record which is portable and useful for insurance purposes

Here's a pic of some "in action"

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I bought a bag of probably used plastic flips. How can I tell if these are the safe ones?

Do the cardboard 2x2s affect the coin, acid in the paper?

Rick
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Safe flips are usually brittle and will crack if flexed or bent. Soft flips usually contain the ingredigents for making PVC soup. If you have used flips just dump them, and get new ones, you never know what was in there before you got them, coins I would assume could be cross contaminated by PVC residue that gets on the inside of a safe flip and transfer onto a coin. Flips are cheap, don't take chances.
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Well, I found a good reason to stay away from cardboard 2x2s, the cheapest one I saw on ebay cost $.06 ea in lots of 100.

Rick
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I stick to cardboard 2x2's.
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I've used 2x2 self adhesive (mostly lighthouse brand) for the past decade. This week I've made a purchase of saflips (from The Purple penny) and will swap over all my 2x2s to saflips.
It was dealing with the holders opening up and allowing the coins to slip down and get stuck to the glue.
Also I hated the fact that once closed the only way to get the coins out (for photographing or conserving) was to rip the buggers open.
I'll be acetone bathing my coins before inserting them into the saflips (I never bathed the coins when I purchased them and I now know a pure acetone bath won't harm them). If they store well then I may consider heat sealing the coins (on a very low humidity day in an air conditioned room so as not to seal any moisture in with them).
I'll be using the archival grade inserts to write the purchase/numi info on.
Next step is to find a cost effective replacement for all my PVC laden sheets to hold my low value coins. That task will take gallons of acetone as I have tens of thousands of coins in sheets to get gunk off
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