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1912-S Nickel....or Not?

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I got this nickel a couple years ago as part of a collection. The previous owner had it in the 1912-S slot of a Whitman folder. There is something in the mint mark position but the reverse is so worn that I can't tell if it's an S or not. If you hold it just right & examine it with a loupe it kind of looks like an S. I had a little free time this morning so I thought I'd try to take a few photos that were good enough to get an opinion. Here are the best shots I could get. All opinions are welcome.
1912-S-Nickel....or-Not?
1912-S-Nickel....or-Not?
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1912-S-Nickel....or-Not?
1912-S-Nickel....or-Not?
1912-S-Nickel....or-Not?
1912-S-Nickel....or-Not?
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 Posted 05/28/2013  11:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CGCoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would like to say yes, but, it appears too close to the Dot. Hard to tell with the pics.
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 Posted 05/28/2013  11:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinzip to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I can't tell....

I wish I could hand you my Dino-Lite... :)
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I really struggled to get these pics. My photo skills are basic at best & to really see anything you have to look through a loupe while holding the coin at the right angle under the right light. At this point I'm considering nicadate......
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 Posted 05/28/2013  1:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scropper to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd say it's definitely worth sending in for confirmation! Good chance. Good find!
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I see the dot but I am not sure if I see anything below the dot. On some pictures I think I do. Not sure if this helps but here is a close up of my 1912 S AG3.

1912-S-Nickel....or-Not?

Knowing you, if you think it is there, it probably is.
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 Posted 05/28/2013  10:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Voshus007 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In some of the pics I can't see it but in others I'm almost positive that you have a S there. I took the pics and outlined what I'm seeing so maybe you see if I'm just crazy or if anyone else sees it (the S is hard to make on a iPhone so it's not the best outline)

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It looks more like a "D" than a "S" to me. The left side appears to have two serifs while the right side appears to have a slight curve.

Edit: The more I look at it, the less it looks like a "D". I'm unsure if it's an "S" or not.
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I see an "S".


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Just not sure.. but don't use Nick-A-Date.. would make the coin about 50% less value.
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I know nicadate will devalue the coin. I'd like to sell this one. Unfortunately, without a better pic it won't sell, plus I don't want to sell it as an S if it's not. In hand it looks like an S as long as you hold it just right....but that could be wishful thinking on my part.
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Would it be worth it to send it to ANACS?
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Well, if you say it's a S, I would say yes.
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Based on my experience submitting worn Standing Liberty quarters I'd presume ANACS would certify it if they determine it's a 1912-S. It might be worth gambling the grading fee to find out.
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Do not use nicodate!

I lean towards an "S" as well.

I would search for a coin dealer close to you for an opinion.
It is best to do nothing to the coin at present.
Any treatment MIGHT reveal an "S" but destroy any sale value.

"Between a rock and a hard place" comes to mind.










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IF I had a batch of coins I was sending to Anacs it might be worth submitting. At this point I don't have a group to send & don't believe I'll have one anytime soon. There isn't a competent coin dealer within reasonable driving distance. I think it's a long shot for the coin to reach an AG grade.

It looks like actual ebay sales show a value of around $80(or less) for a raw 1912-S with the S visible. There were several that sold in the $40-60 range that had indistinguishable mint marks, were cleaned, corroded, or a combination. In my mind that means even slabbed this coin would have a market value of less than $80, & probably in the $40-60 range. I'm not sure that's much more than an acid restored mint mark would sell for.

It would be nice to have a die marker that would positiviely identify the coin. Unfortunately I haven't been able to find information about one. I may just throw it back into the box that holds all the other coins I'm not entirely sure what to do with.
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