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Buddhist Tokens?

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 Posted 05/29/2013  9:23 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add thebugguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
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After posting what I thought was a coin that turned out to be an Akbar temple token and then identifying a token-looking thing that was actually a coin, I thought I would take a couple quick pictures of other unidentified, presumably Buddhist tokens in my collection. Each is about the size of a silver dollar, look like they were cast and made of some sort of billon (or not- hard to tell).

Given their source they can't possibly be younger than the 1950's and might date as far back as the turn of the last century, if not earlier. Has anyone seen these before?

Buddhist-Tokens?

Buddhist-Tokens?

Buddhist-Tokens?

Buddhist-Tokens?

Whatever they are, they're round(ish), look neat and fit in a coin flip, making them eligible for my collection...

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 Posted 05/30/2013  12:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This class of object is typically known as a "Chinese charm" - although they could just as easily be from Korea or Japan as from China proper. The main reference work for them is "Metal Charms and Amulets of China" by Edgar J. Mandel; the Zeno.ru database pages for Chinese charms uses Mandel's classification system.
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This class of object is typically known as a "Chinese charm" - although they could just as easily be from Korea or Japan as from China proper.


They are both Korean charms.

The inscriptions are written in ancient Chinese seal script which is difficult for me to read. There may be mistakes with my translation.

The inscription on the first charm is 好话说读好书 which translates as "speak good words and study good books".

The inscription on the other side is 做好人行好事 which means "be like a good man and do good deeds".

The inscription on the second charm is 寿域春亭康衢烟月. This can translate as "long life is within the bounds of the Spring Pavillion, misty moonlight shines on the bustling street scene".

I know that the "misty moonlight shines on the bustling street scene" is taken from an ancient Daoist text known as the "Liezi".

The phrase usually refers to the wish that rulers will be concerned with the peace and prosperity of the common people.

I do not know the original source for the expression "Long life is within the bounds of the Spring Pavillion".

I found one Chinese source that says 寿域 can also refer to "a tomb prepared during a man's lifetime; the Golden Age".

Therefore, I am unclear as to the meaning of this expression.

The other side of the charm has the inscription 琴'友之e'e"乐之. (Unfortunately, some Chinese characters cannot be displayed on this website. The Chinese pronunciation of this inscription is qin se you zhi zhong gu le zhi. I do not know the Korean pronunciation.)

This can translate as "with the qin and the se be friendly to her, with the bells and the drums make her happy".

The qin and se are musical instruments.

This is usually understood to be a description of a wedding but the extended meaning is the hope for love and harmony for the couple.

This expression comes from the ancient Chinese book of poetry known as the Classic of Poetry (Book of Songs).

For those interested, I have written an article entitled "Zithers and Grasshoppers" on a Chinese charm with the "qin and se" theme.

Gary
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manymore, great article
Your contribution here is another reason why I really like CCF. I would never have even known of the existence of these charms (had thebugguy not posted them), let alone having any idea what they said.

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 Posted 05/31/2013  01:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thebugguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sap, manymore- wow! Thanks for the info! Every time I think I'm starting to fill out my knowledge I get proven wrong! I'm leaving town tomorrow but will look into this in more detail upon my return- fascinating!

I bought these from a gentleman who turned 90 this year whom was married to a Korean woman (he served in the Army in Asia in the 1950s, she passed away a few years ago). I would not at all be surprised if these were some forgotten mementos from their wedding 60+ years ago... Amazing...

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Gary got the answer for the question.
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