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This is a new arrival 1823 O-104 R3 with double profile. The toning is very nice, but my photography skills are not so good. Any assistance with grade or comments are welcome.   Member ANA and EAC "You got to lose to know how to win". Dream On by Aerosmith Edited by cipster
06/03/2013 5:34 pm
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Man, what a gorgeous coin!! Wonderful strike! I love the double-profile!!  Obviously some wear (even, though). Nice centering dot on the neck!  A very nice EF-40 for me. Info from Coinzip.com/proboards:Quote:
The 1823 O-104, R3.
This die marriage was struck using Obverse Die 3 and Reverse Die D. This was the only use of these dies.
There are two quick easy identifiers for this die marriage:
(1) On the obverse the 2 is distinctly lower than the 183.
(2) On the reverse the lowest line of the shield extends past the right shield margin forming a knob. This is easily seen on my coin below.
It is also not unusual to find double or triple profiles in this variety. Edited by Moe145
06/03/2013 5:55 pm
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I'm calling this one AU, maybe even 53. Keys: look at the huge shelves on the eagle's brow, top of right wing, and the hair behind the ear. This is a flat strike of an old die pair with very little wear besides.
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EF-45, with easy to see wear.
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 with XF45. Very Nice !! . |
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Nice! Love the doubled portrait! |
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After a bit more research, ALL the examples of this die marriage on Coinzip show the flatness in the middle/lower obverse hair, the eagle's brow & beak and the tops of the reverse wings. What's apparent of a great strike, like the fine hairs under the LIBERTY and excellent detail in all the stars and the very nice detail on virtually all the reverse, all point to a flat strike in the above areas and not wear for usage. Nice job SsuperDdave!  You saw through the seeming "wear" and saw the underlying weakness/flatness in the dies. Of course, this now begs the question: why are all the examples showing this weakness when this die marriage was of two new dies? Did these dies wear out that quickly? |
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I like it as an EF-45. The coin has a slightly overdipped look to it but I think it probably just the pictures and the coin doesn't have that look in person. Sweet acquisition!
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I agree with Superdave. It looks like an AU range coin to me. |
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I love the double profile.......
Photo help: use a piece of white paper for your background, it will help your camera determine the white balance more accurate which should result in your colors looking closer to the coin in hand.
As for grade, its an AU coin in my opinion.
Congrats on a great coin
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Hi, Before moe pointed out the intricacies of the strike via coinzip I was going with a VF-35. Now, I'll settle with a xf-45. It would be helpful to know if a web site exists explaining the existence of these die characteristics w/r/t grading for all types of US coins. mdpmedia |
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I'm still just a novice, so I can't offer an opinion on grade, but I just had to pop in and say that that is an incredible-looking specimen!
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Thanks everyone for all the helpful feedback  Member ANA and EAC "You got to lose to know how to win". Dream On by Aerosmith Edited by cipster
06/07/2013 12:31 pm
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XF-AU, Fantastic!  Very cool double profile! |
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