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Why Is It So Hard For Canadians & USians To Get CA Halves.

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 Posted 06/06/2013  12:50 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Fox to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I don't understand why, but all I hear about Canadian halves is that they are in the same boat as American halves, (only minted for collector purposes) but with one other difference: Circulation quality Canadian halves are hard to come by.

I started this topic after I read the post about the Canadian who got the huge load of 6,000-12,000 "American" halves.

So, why are Canadian halves so much harder to come by than American halves?

I would love to have a few Canadian halves in my possession.

(Sorry about the title of this topic. I wanted it to be "Why is it so hard for both, Canadians AND Americans to get Canadian Halves?" but it would not fit)

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 Posted 06/06/2013  02:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Drsandman2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, the US is geographically large. A coin could travel several thousand miles in a car or airplane before it is passed on to the next owner. Also, the US has a lot more people. The population of California is larger than Canada. I would imagine Canadian coins would have to see many times more pockets to get the same wear as US coins. I'm not so sure about this liquidity.
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 Posted 06/06/2013  03:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Libertad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's not easy to go to the bank and ask for halves because they just don't circulate. You can get lucky, but it's generally not going happen. They don't circulate because we have trillions of commemorative quarters that serve the same purpose. The last time halves went to banks was 2002 and that was a commemorative issue that got hoarded. Today if you want halves you have to buy them from the mint by the roll at a premium, so they can circulate but you lose out so they almost never do. Plus, we don't have an amazing president on our halves.
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 Posted 06/06/2013  06:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Crimewave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
apparently they only took out the canadian halves because in vending machines they all counted as $1 coins so they knew people would always be using 50 cent coins as loonies, so they took them out of circulation. at least thats what I heard! so vending machines killed the canadian half dollar : (
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 Posted 06/06/2013  3:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CanadianCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Crimewave - That is definitely true. Some machines will count them as loonies
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 Posted 06/06/2013  6:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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"Why is it so hard for both, Canadians AND Americans to get Canadian Halves?" but it would not fit


Good catch! But I have only ever run into one Canadian that made sure I knew he was also an American. Many times I was told I had an "American" accent (until I learned how to hide it ).

Anyway, from the time I was a kid (60s and 70s), and living relatively close to the our wonderful Northern Neighbors, I visited Canada countless times (having travelled almost from one end of Trans Canada 1 to the other also). My grandfather and I made it a point to stop at Banks and ask for Canadian half dollars. You would be surprised at how few we were able to get over the years. We only once got a roll of them. And normally, if they had any at all, it was 2 or 3.

There were actually times when we were told by the tellers they did not even know Canada made half dollars since they had never seen any! I was told back then that Canadians did not use half dollars for the same reason US people did/do not - they were too bulky/heavy to carry around. And remember this was in the pre-forced-to-accept-dollar-coin days in Canada. People liked paper and used it when they had a chance.

Now why the Canadians always accepted used $2.00 notes and we didn't in the States, I have no idea. This has puzzled me ever since I used to spend those pink $2.00 bills up there.

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 Posted 06/07/2013  12:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fox to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Crimewave & CanadianCollector,

How is it possible for Canadian halves to be confysed for loonies? Isn't there even the slightest bit of elecrtomagnetic signature from each coin?

This is a bit off to topic, but here in America, when I was in my early 20s I was at a bingo with my grandma, and the hall had a toy crane machine that accepted only quarters, $1 and $5 bills, so I told my grandma "I've heard of some machines taking $2 bills as $5 bills, but also, some machines that that them as $1 bills, so I am going to try a $2 bill in this machine's slot and see what it takes it as" and my grandma said "No! What if it takes it as a $1 bill and you lose a dollar?" and I said, "Hey, we're at a bingo hall. This place is all about gambling" however, when I inserted the $2 bill, the machine just spit it back out at me.

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 Posted 06/07/2013  04:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add collectall to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is a little off topic,but FYI
Drsandman2 is close.
The population of California is (approx.)30.04 million
The population of Canada is (approx.)34.48 million
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This is a little off topic,but FYI
Drsandman2 is close.
The population of California is (approx.)30.04 million
The population of Canada is (approx.)34.48 million


I knew it was only a matter of time before someone brought this up

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I agree, trying to find Canadian Victorian and Edwardian halves in mintstate seems to be getting more difficult!

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Pink $2 bills? They were brown.
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Pink $2 bills? They were brown.


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 Posted 06/30/2013  10:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CanadianCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Fox - They are almost the same size as a loonie. As to why the machine takes them as a loonie I have no idea. I found out when a guy asked to borrow 50 cents and I jokingly tossed him a nickel half dollar.
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 Posted 06/30/2013  11:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AgCoinAu to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm not sure if you were talking about me with respect to a Canadian picking up American Halves...

(Had an issue for the past few weeks where I couldn't log in even after several attempts) I now just used a new e-mail address to make this post... (hope with my orginal posts I didn't offend or do something wrong)

I got the large number of american halves through an estate purchase.... where the orginal owners got the coins from I really didn't ask but it seems the husband was quite the coin collector.. (albeit he kept almost 20K in coins in a small barn/shed on his farm)

With respect to canadian halves... I get those all the times.... the banks here are only happy to give me them.. I go to approximately 6 banks on a weekly basis and usually pick up anywhere between 5 - 50 canadian halves... I generally just pick through them looking for common errors and place 'em in one of my coin boxes...

But just saying.. they're still out there...
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 Posted 07/01/2013  6:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The pic (from online) following and the ones issued before them always looked pinkish red to me...


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 Posted 07/01/2013  6:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Max L to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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trying to find Canadian Victorian and Edwardian halves in mintstate seems to be getting more difficult!


I agree with Glenzy on that one! Plus they're not light on the wallet
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