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Advice On Ebay Buy Of 1855 O Seated Liberty Half Dollar

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 Posted 06/07/2013  7:48 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Moe145 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Ok, let me hear your opinions:

I just got this coin today. I usually photograph the coins when I get them, then crop and size. Here's the ebay pictures from the seller and the ones I just took.


Seller's Pictures from the ebay ad:

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My pictures from today:

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 Posted 06/07/2013  7:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ron_CA to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Coin looked cleaned in the ebay listing and based on your new pics, there was some obvious attempt at minimizing the level of cleaning.
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 Posted 06/07/2013  8:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's not the lighting on the seller's photos, definitely some photo shop work going on here. If you are not pleased with the appearance return it.
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Wow that's really deceptive. Images heavily manipulated to minimize an extremely harsh cleaning. Added to my list of ebay sellers to avoid. Hope you can get your money back Moe.
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 Posted 06/07/2013  8:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add muddler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would return it with the harsh cleaning your photo shows. There are more of these out there, find another that will fit the quality of your set.
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 Posted 06/07/2013  8:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Moe145 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I admit the seller's ebay pictures were over lit. I also feel the lighting deliberately hid the coin's flaws.

Good news: my email to the seller discussing my concerns prompted this response.



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Dear moe145,

I apologize you are not satisfied with the coin. I didn't think the coin was cleaned because of the nice tone it has. Please mail coin back to:

(Seller's address)

Thank you, and I apologize you were not satisfied.

(Seller)



The coin's going back tomorrow.
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 Posted 06/08/2013  12:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jgettings00 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Definitely cleaned pretty bad. Definitely photoshopped ad pics.
What a bummer, it looked like a super nice coin from the ad pics.
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 Posted 06/08/2013  02:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jerry_B to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My first impression of the seller's pics was overexposure, washing out the details. It is good to see his cooperative response.
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Glad to see you got cooperation from the seller in getting this one returned. The reverse fields are badly abraded.
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 Posted 06/08/2013  06:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add epikur to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I knew right away who the seller was from the style of his pictures.
Had an issue with him selling a counterfeit half. He disagreed with me and the evidence I had, but didn't have a problem returning it though
https://goccf.com/t/143472

A lagre volume seller like that should see it had been cleaned.

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Is it me, or is the reverse on this coin a little too identical to epikur's old 1856 that was outed as a counterfeit by swamperbob? Perhaps it should be weighed before going back?
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 Posted 06/08/2013  07:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That "F" in half is blocky like epikur's fake. Good eye philadelphian. Do we have a pattern developing here?
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We should get swamperbob in here for his opinion, and the coin should be weighed. Hopefully, it's not sent back yet
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 Posted 06/08/2013  1:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Moe145 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Hopefully, it's not sent back yet.



Sorry, everyone, it's already heading back...
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 Posted 06/08/2013  2:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add grancap74 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow, is this a disturbing post plus reading the additional thread from March. Very educational and helpful, but now makes me queezy buying anything of value.
Does anyone have a educated guess on when these were "created", meaning the last few decades or last few years?
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I had thought of shooting you an email this morning, Moe. Wish I had. Does that "mashed-out" F look familiar to you as well, though? According to the Wiley/Bugert text, there are nine known reverses to the 1856-O, and ten for the 1855-O; seems unlikely that many reverse dies would have been used for both years (and even if one was, how likely is it that both coins would have been in the stock of a single seller, three months apart, both in uncirculated condition?).
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