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Pillar of the Community
United States
8904 Posts |
Ok, let me hear your opinions: I just got this coin today. I usually photograph the coins when I get them, then crop and size. Here's the ebay pictures from the seller and the ones I just took. Seller's Pictures from the ebay ad:  My pictures from today: 
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Valued Member
United States
207 Posts |
Coin looked cleaned in the ebay listing and based on your new pics, there was some obvious attempt at minimizing the level of cleaning.
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Rest in Peace
United States
10625 Posts |
It's not the lighting on the seller's photos, definitely some photo shop work going on here. If you are not pleased with the appearance return it.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3843 Posts |
Wow that's really deceptive. Images heavily manipulated to minimize an extremely harsh cleaning. Added to my list of ebay sellers to avoid. Hope you can get your money back Moe.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
7189 Posts |
I would return it with the harsh cleaning your photo shows. There are more of these out there, find another that will fit the quality of your set.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
8904 Posts |
I admit the seller's ebay pictures were over lit. I also feel the lighting deliberately hid the coin's flaws. Good news: my email to the seller discussing my concerns prompted this response. Quote:
Dear moe145,
I apologize you are not satisfied with the coin. I didn't think the coin was cleaned because of the nice tone it has. Please mail coin back to:
(Seller's address)
Thank you, and I apologize you were not satisfied.
(Seller) The coin's going back tomorrow.
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Valued Member
United States
149 Posts |
Definitely cleaned pretty bad. Definitely photoshopped ad pics. What a bummer, it looked like a super nice coin from the ad pics.
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Valued Member
Canada
453 Posts |
My first impression of the seller's pics was overexposure, washing out the details. It is good to see his cooperative response.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
10982 Posts |
Glad to see you got cooperation from the seller in getting this one returned. The reverse fields are badly abraded.
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Pillar of the Community
Sweden
729 Posts |
I knew right away who the seller was from the style of his pictures. Had an issue with him selling a counterfeit half. He disagreed with me and the evidence I had, but didn't have a problem returning it though https://goccf.com/t/143472A lagre volume seller like that should see it had been cleaned.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3253 Posts |
Is it me, or is the reverse on this coin a little too identical to epikur's old 1856 that was outed as a counterfeit by swamperbob? Perhaps it should be weighed before going back?
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Rest in Peace
United States
10625 Posts |
 That "F" in half is blocky like epikur's fake. Good eye philadelphian. Do we have a pattern developing here?
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Pillar of the Community
Sweden
729 Posts |
We should get swamperbob in here for his opinion, and the coin should be weighed. Hopefully, it's not sent back yet
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
8904 Posts |
Quote: Hopefully, it's not sent back yet. Sorry, everyone, it's already heading back... 
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Valued Member
United States
289 Posts |
Wow, is this a disturbing post plus reading the additional thread from March. Very educational and helpful, but now makes me queezy buying anything of value. Does anyone have a educated guess on when these were "created", meaning the last few decades or last few years?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3253 Posts |
I had thought of shooting you an email this morning, Moe. Wish I had. Does that "mashed-out" F look familiar to you as well, though? According to the Wiley/Bugert text, there are nine known reverses to the 1856-O, and ten for the 1855-O; seems unlikely that many reverse dies would have been used for both years (and even if one was, how likely is it that both coins would have been in the stock of a single seller, three months apart, both in uncirculated condition?).
Edited by philadelphian 06/08/2013 2:38 pm
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