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I was wanting to know if the date on this coin is normal or if the 3 in the date is over another number? Also, I have put arrows to what looks like doubling in certain letters of the coin, front and back. I wanted to know if this is Machine Doubling or not? Thank you! Here are pics!    |
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Pillar of the Community
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I placed my zoom level at 500% to view the photos and to me it looks like the "3" is over a "7" that must have been punched into the die by accident and failed to remove it completely prior to punching in the "3". On the reverse side, I thought it was Machine Doubling at first on the "X & C", closer inspection shows a different font type (rounded vs squared edge). Maybe others can verify my findings or give their opinion on what they believe it is.  |
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Bedrock of the Community
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I specialize in overdates from Europe, so for what that's worth, I also see something under the "3"
However, 1930 was the only year of issue for this coin, so it may be a stretch to suppose the dies were dated for any other years. Besides, the doubling near the top of the "3" looks like the same digit, so this may just be machine doubing.
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DVCollector, I have a question... Do you know if the top of the start of the 3 starts from a down position and then goes up and continues the design of the 3 or should the top of the 3 be flat like a normal 3. Here are a couple more pics. The arrow pointing down appears to me to be where the start of the 3 could be and the arrow pointing up looks like it could be the start of a 7 UNLESS the 3 does start like this "7" type.   |
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I can clearly see the top half of a "7" under a "3" when zoomed in.
Maybe the OP can post another photo (close up) showing the "3/7" with arrows pointing to both digits serifs on the upper left side.
Since this was a one year issue, that would explain why the under digit is higher then "3".
I don't know the mintage of this series, or if they made a master die or individual die/dies, if the latter, that would explain why I see 2 different fonts and a higher digit under a lower digit.
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We must have been on the same wavelenth as you had posted the photo as I was requesting it. Also, what looks like Machine Doubling on the top right of the "3" is actually the top right side of a "7" that continues down to the bottom left side of the "3". |
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I took a more close up picture of the date and looking at the 3 it looks like the top bar of three is straight and doesn't look like it goes out further then goes down on the left like a 7. You can barely make out the the start of the 7 on the top left of the 3. This might be due to lighting though.  Edited by amnight
06/14/2013 4:30 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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Regarding the "3" on the date, the styles of numerals differ for periods of time and countries. Drop over to ebay and search for this coin, you'll see a similar "3". Well...I stated my opinion regarding an overdate on a single-year issue--it's rare enough that I don't own one myself. Even then consider why a die would be dated 197_.  On the other hand, all my overdates (around 100 total) are documented in Krause. Here's a pic to illustrate an observation about overdates. In all the ones I have, there is a common characteristic--parts of the underlying digit jut beneath the top digit. I'm not completely sold on the diagonal stroke of the 7, probably because there is nothing else unique to that "3/7".  Edited by DVCollector
06/15/2013 04:22 am
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What is the alignment: coin or medal alignment If coin alignment, maybe that's ghosting of the design on the other side  |
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Posted 06/14/2013 11:13 am
