1829 Bust Half For Grade/Variety Comments

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mysilveryears Pillar of the Community United States 1888 Posts	Posted 06/17/2013 3:42 pm Photos are pretty close color-wise to what this looks like in hand. Thanks for looking. Report this Post to the Staff

cipster Pillar of the Community United States 2364 Posts	Posted 06/17/2013 5:57 pm I'm working on the variety and having some trouble. I start with the T/I alignment on the reverse and the I is further left than I would expect. The varieties that are closest are O-102- no - that's 29 over 27 and I don't see that O-103- no - left side stars are drawn to the left O-115 - ok - maybe but some of the details aren't matching. Maybe I'm just having a bad day. Also, there's a huge rain storm approaching so I'll get back to this in a few minutes. Member ANA and EAC "You got to lose to know how to win". Dream On by Aerosmith Report this Post to the Staff
mysilveryears Pillar of the Community United States 1888 Posts	Posted 06/17/2013 6:08 pm That storm or one like it just came through here. This is definitely not an overdate variety. I have three 1829's and they all look the same to my eye. But then, I lack a good photo guide to variations. Edited by mysilveryears 06/17/2013 6:11 pm Report this Post to the Staff
amida17 Pillar of the Community United States 4897 Posts	Posted 06/17/2013 6:29 pm I'll second the O-115. Recut lower arrowhead. Report this Post to the Staff
Moe145 Pillar of the Community United States 8904 Posts	Posted 06/17/2013 7:01 pm I'm not convinced of an O-115 for this coin... Diagnostics for 1829 CBH, O-115: Quote: 1829, O-115, R1. Obverse: Star 13 points to middle of lower rear curl of Miss Liberty. Reverse: Second T in STATES is higher than adjoining A and E. 1. (Obverse) The # 7 star on the OP's coin doesn't point at the juncture of the hair curl and the forehead like in Fever's 1829 O-115 R1 (below) from Coinzip.proboards.com (more like at the curl). 2. (Reverse )I don't see the second T in STATES in the OP's coin being higher like in Fever's 1829 CBH O-115 shown here. If anything, the second T is LOWER than the other letters. 3. (Reverse) The right end of the E PLURIBUS UNUM scroll extends under the M in AMERICA where the O-115 version stops under the A. Of course, I haven't figured out which Overton I DO think it is yet!! Edited by Moe145 06/17/2013 11:12 pm Report this Post to the Staff
cipster Pillar of the Community United States 2364 Posts	Posted 06/17/2013 7:20 pm Quote: there's a huge rain storm approaching so I'll get back to this in a few minutes OK, I'm back and agree with Moe because the O-115 details aren't matching. Can someone take a look at the T/I alignment on this web site? http://coinzip.wix.com/bust-half-do...tribute/1829 I think the I is further left on this coin than I would expect. I checked some O-115 1829s on Heritage and their alignment matches the web site. I'm here to learn from the experts but so far I am raising a red flag. Member ANA and EAC "You got to lose to know how to win". Dream On by Aerosmith Report this Post to the Staff
supgog Pillar of the Community Israel 2420 Posts	Posted 06/17/2013 7:25 pm I have no idea about Overton variety, but who took the poor eagle's eye out? Report this Post to the Staff
panzaldi Bedrock of the Community United States 18706 Posts	Posted 06/17/2013 8:53 pm VF35. I'm thinking this may have been cleaned a while ago looking at all the halos around the devices Report this Post to the Staff
vermontensium Moderator United States 16679 Posts	Posted 06/17/2013 8:57 pm swcoin.ecrater.com Report this Post to the Staff
Moe145 Pillar of the Community United States 8904 Posts	Posted 06/17/2013 11:21 pm Cipster, after a little research, I think you were right originally with the O-103 pick. (See if there's a stair-step to the top crossbar of the 5 of 50 C. I can't tell from the pictures...) O-103, R1 diagnostics from coinzip.com: Quote: Obverse Die 2 was used to strike this die marriage. Later, this obverse die was used to strike O-104. This is the second and last use of Reverse Die B. It was first used to strike the O-102. (1) Irregular top 5 of 50 C. The top has an irregular stair-step appearance on the underside. (2) There is a triangular defect about 5 dentils to the left of the date. This defect protrudes from the dentils. This is not seen on all specimens. (3) The outside lower curve of the D is recut. Report this Post to the Staff
D0ubl3Eagle Pillar of the Community United States 5854 Posts	Posted 06/18/2013 12:27 am Strong EF-45, close to AU-50. I agree that it probably had an old cleaning. Report this Post to the Staff
Moe145 Pillar of the Community United States 8904 Posts	Posted 06/18/2013 10:09 am EF-45 for me! Nice example of a terrific coin type!! Report this Post to the Staff
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