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1968-D LMC: Crooked Things? Help In ID What And Cause?

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Notice the top of the third column and lines on the facade. Is there a name for this - what causes it?
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I am not sure what the "term" is (die erosion?), but may be one of the deciding factors for Lincoln's face (& reverse) lift in 1969.
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It all falls into a straight line. I would say PSD. Something moved across the coin damaging it. If it were a die anomoly, a lot of other coins would show this.
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It all falls into a straight line. I would say PSD. Something moved across the coin damaging it.


I must ask this question: If something moved across the coin with enough force to damage it - why are there no other marks?
I have seen coins with numbers or letters out of place, clearly caused by something moving across them, because other marks or gouges are present to testify to the event.

Thanks for looking.

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Most of the time the beatings coins take are called bag marks. These are from coins in a bag/bin the was dropped on each other after they are struck. Coin wrapping machines disturb the outside devices and the distortion is parallel to the rim. Coin counters/coin vending machines/casinos put wear on the outside devices and rims. But when something blunt hits the coin, it can disturb the devices depending on what it was.direction/force behind the object causing the damage. What ever happened to Pete's coin, I don't know. But it wasn't struck that way. The devices were moved somehow.
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when something blunt hits the coin, it can disturb the devices depending on what it was.direction/force behind the object causing the damage.


Thanks for that explanation, Richard - I can visualize that for this coin. Sorry for the additional question - I am a little slow and dense - i.e.: senility!

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when something blunt hits the coin


I may have found some support for this idea...I have looked again at the coin, turning it at various angles in the light. There appears to be a slight concave area covering maybe a little over 1/3 of the upper half of the reverse. The features in question would be on the left hand side of this concave area. It is too mild for it to show up in a photograph and there are no additional marks of any kind visible. It seems like a strong hit would not cause this, but I can imagine an object pressing on the coin with increasing pressure. Seems to me that kind of scenario could have this kind of effect without causing any additional marks. My imagination stops at that point, however, because I cannot see what circumstance there might be for that to happen.

Then again...maybe it is an optical illusion?

Interesting (to me) anyway.

Thanks for looking and thanks for the help.

Pete
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