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United States
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Grades and comments are greatly appreciated, thank you.   |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Nice coin, I will go with MS63RB, a few nicks on obverse.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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 with his grade. I see some Machine Doubling in the Liberty and in the date. Pretty cool. |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Definately shows wear, AU-53.
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Valued Member
 United States
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Thank you all for the grades. Not sure if it matters grading wise, but I forgot to mention it's a DDO |
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United States
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Mr. Badthad: my question is intended with the most respect. I look at grading questions frequently, and look forward to your input (as well as a few notable others). on more that one occasion your response has surprised me. at least once when you gave the pictured coins a MS ** (i don't recall the exact number) on a coin which looked to me to show noticeable wear. and now this coin - which to me does not seem to show any noticeable wear - you give it an AU**. I have enlarged this poster's image and I really don't see the wear you describe. would you please elaborate. (i am not questioning you - but more so actually questioning my observations.) thanks.
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Bedrock of the Community
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No problem, I'll tell what I see.
Keep in mind, these were the first coins produced from brand new hubs and dies so the strikes are normally strong.
Obverse - A little crud in the devices. I see wear on the rim, lapel and the temple area. Also, numerous hits, mostly small, but many more that I'd expect to see on an unc coin. All of the devices are banged-up. Most of all, I can tell the original mint luster has faded.
Reverse - For sure AU, lost luster, slight wear on the wheat lines/grains and numerous small hits scattered around (more than expected for unc). The rims show circulation wear and the whole reverse is just flat.
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Badthad,
Thanks for the pictures and discussion. I will be the first to admit I struggle the most with MS coins (especially from pictures). I can appreciate your points and could be swayed in my thinking. I probably need the coin in hand to be sure.
This is a great example of why this is the best coin forum around. A cordial, polite discussion about a coin with examples of others to support one's position.... nice. This is how we all learn to be better graders, which in turn, makes us all better collectors.
Thanks everyone.
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United States
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Maybe it's just the pictures or maybe it's just me, but the obverse color seems slightly off. It looks a slightly yellow and the toning on the hair and rim looks a tad splotchy. Curiously, the toning on the hair seems to be mostly on the tops of the curls and forehead and not so much in the recesses of the curls. I am not quite sure if the surfaces are original or not but it makes me wonder. At best it may grade MS-61/62 RB.
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United States
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IMO I think it's AU and not MS, even though I'm not a good lincoln grader. I bought it thinking it was in the AU range so I'm happy  Quote:J-win, this coin isn't a DDO. It just has Machine Doubling. I beg to differ xZACKx, it most certainly is. Check out this link, and if you need some closer pictures of the date/RTY on my coin, I'll take some: http://www.coppercoins.com/lincoln/...ie_state=mds |
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United States
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Ah, now I see. I'm not good at determining MD or DD on older coins.
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I would give the original coin a AU-58 grade, you can diffinatly see the small dings on the reverse of the coin when you enlarge the photo.
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This is an awesome thread. dbrablec, I have to somewhat agree with your question to thad. I first looked at the photos on my iphone, and immediately thought MS, but I think I jumped the gun. Then when thad went in depth with the details and showed his coin, it is clear as day the difference. I then opened the post on my computer and the (incredible) photos--thad is exactly right--which leads me to my question.
It is clear that this coin at one point had been circulated, yet it looks clean and the color in my opinion looks remarkable for a coin having been around 104 years. I am not suggesting it has been cleaned, instead, I wonder, at what point do you think this coin had been removed from circulation? Kind of a general question, but I often wonder how long Good-AU have been in captivity... know what I mean?
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