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 Posted 05/23/2007  08:43 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add triggersmob to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I would like to get your grading opinions on these Morgans I have received from very generous forum members.

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 Posted 05/23/2007  09:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A couple preliminary comments, Steve: Regarding the 1889 - can you get magnification sufficient to determine if there is doubling in the ear? There are a large number of doubled-ear varieties with this issue, some quite rare. Also, do I see a little "bump" on the top of the wing, right below the "n" of "In," or is it a photographic artifact? Although I'm turned off by the discoloration at the A in DOLLAR, it has all the appearance of a nice MS example otherwise.

Regarding the 1890-O: G4-G6.

The 1921 is an excellent strike for the year, and an issue that's near and dear to me. I'd love to see pics of that one of the same size as the 1890-O. Can you determine if there are noticeably fewer reeds on it than the other two you've posted? Also, carefully examine the lower reverse, below the eagle, for evidence of rusted-die pitting. My initial impression is of an obverse-limited, low-MS example.
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Thanks Superdave, Hopefully these extra pics will help.

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I can't see the reeding on the other coins to compare the 1921 with and there is no pitting that I can see.

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 Posted 05/23/2007  11:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jaobler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Triggersmob,
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I like the 1889 and I think it could be an MS65 candidate. Liberty's cheek has that tiny pockmark but is otherwise nice and smooth. The discoloration on the reverse might drop it to a 64.
The 1890-O looks to have VG detail but it has been harshly cleaned, likely more than once. It may also have some corrosion or "environmental damage", especially on the reverse. This one is basically a cull, worth melt value.
On the 1921 I see a halo of luster persisting around the letters and in protected areas. The fields and Liberty's cheek show diminished luster and light rub. This one looks AU-53 or 55 to me.
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 Posted 05/24/2007  12:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Boy that sure is a weak strike on that 1890-O
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 Posted 05/25/2007  7:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add triggersmob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you all, for your opinions and gradings.

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 Posted 05/25/2007  7:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The mark I saw on the 1889 is the characteristic vertical of a clashed die (from the neck on the obverse, I think), and is not the Barwing VAM-22 I thought it might be. I am still undecided on the 1921, although it turns out to be a weaker strike than I thought. Note, with this coin, the weakness of the outside lettering towards the denticles is not uncommon, and the extreme weakness of the wreath leaves is probably a strike artifact rather than wear. I don't think there is sufficient wear noted on the eagle's neck, legs and wing leading edges to correspond to the condition of the leaves.

Of course, I've been wrong before. Today, even.
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 Posted 05/25/2007  8:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add triggersmob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the extra info, Superdave. So what would be your actual grading on the two coins?

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 Posted 05/25/2007  9:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
So what would be your actual grading on the two coins?



Caveat: The pics are a little bright, deceptive about the actual luster and possible slight wear.

1889: Strong MS64. Two years ago, MS65 from any TPG.

1921: I'm sticking my neck out and calling it MS63. In-hand, I could say AU55.
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 Posted 05/25/2007  9:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add triggersmob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you, Superdave. Your opinion is valued.

Steve
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 Posted 05/25/2007  10:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ChristinaM to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Boy..I sure miss that 1889 Enjoy it Steve!
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 Posted 05/25/2007  10:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add triggersmob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you Christina, it sure is a beauty.

I hope you enjoy the coins I sent you, as much as I enjoy these Morgans. Hopefully they should arrive to you next week.

Steve
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