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Does Stupidity Have No Bounds?

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 Posted 06/21/2005  6:14 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add national dealer to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I spoke with a few Senators about the upcoming vote concerning the Dollar coin and related coins. It seems that they have enough votes to :

1. Create a new Presidential dollar coin.
2. Create a new $10 First Spouse coin.
3. Create a commemorative 4 coin Lincoln 2009 series.
4. Create a new Buffalo Bullion coin.
5. Make the Sacagawea dollar a PERMANENT design.

This is one of the saddest days in numismatics. Like the House of Representatives, they attached coins that everyone wanted to give this STUPID bill that ability to pass.
This will make 2 out of 6 coins permanent. It also gives the necessary rules to make the last 4 coins permanent. It is often said that intelligence has limits, but stupidity knows no bounds. This excerise in the highest levels of STUPIDITY seem to make this true.
How these elected leaders think that these current designs are worthy of becoming permanent is totally beyond me. Our "we" that great that our future generations have to put up with what we think is perfect?
It is days like this that make me wish that I sold "used" cars.
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 Posted 06/21/2005  6:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Stujoe to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Out of the 4, I only really care for the Lincoln idea and would only be really happy with that if it led to a design change afterwards. The buffalo is already a cash cow ;) that is being way overdone and is becoming tiresome. The president series, while I think it has some benefits, is an old and tired theme and could have been done with something more innovative. The Sackie as permanent is not a path I like at all.

All in all, the mints biggest problem is a lack of vision, innovative thinking and creativity. Sad.
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 Posted 06/21/2005  6:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zakgold to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As our representatives become more "sensitve" and "politically correct", they are becoming just as stupid...proportionally. Nobody has guts to call a spade, a spade...or a duck, a duck.

I would love to attend the ANA and give those wire-rim, I-can't-get-a-date ladies on the CCAC a piece of my mind about their comments that "liberty" is too political. As for our elected leaders, all of those representatives don't have a clue how their actions today will be laughed upon by future numismatics.

Making the SAC and her kid "forever" on what is a decent dollar size/color with a great reverse is insane. Presidential dollars? don't make me go there. First ladies on coins? Just simply insane! As much as I love the Buffalo (as I grew up in Buffalo, NY), I guess bullion coins must contain animals only...or leaves.

The hell with everything Teddy Roosevelt tried to achieve when he initiated an overhaul in US coin designs. He must be turning in his grave!
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06/21/2005 6:40 pm
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 Posted 06/22/2005  12:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SFDukie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is a commemorative coinage series depicting First Ladies one of the dumbest coinage ideas ever?
Hmm, it actually is a contender.

But putting Rutherford B Hayes, Warren Harding, Richard Nixon, and Lyndon Johnson on coinage is up there too.

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 Posted 06/22/2005  12:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mike to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Laws can be changed and ammended, I agree that Roosevelt is probably spinning like a top. I just don't understand why Liberty, even if it was originally copied from France can't be incorparated into some of our coinage! I still say Lady Liberty was embraced by much of the world as a symbol of America and freedom, not oppression as some would have you believe today! Coinage should be representitive of our country's beliefs, from all it's peoples, not just a handful of famous Americans! MikeDoes-Stupidity-Have-No-Bounds? Does-Stupidity-Have-No-Bounds? Does-Stupidity-Have-No-Bounds? Does-Stupidity-Have-No-Bounds? Does-Stupidity-Have-No-Bounds? Does-Stupidity-Have-No-Bounds? Does-Stupidity-Have-No-Bounds? Does-Stupidity-Have-No-Bounds? Does-Stupidity-Have-No-Bounds? Does-Stupidity-Have-No-Bounds? Does-Stupidity-Have-No-Bounds? Does-Stupidity-Have-No-Bounds? Does-Stupidity-Have-No-Bounds? Does-Stupidity-Have-No-Bounds? Does-Stupidity-Have-No-Bounds? Does-Stupidity-Have-No-Bounds? Does-Stupidity-Have-No-Bounds? Does-Stupidity-Have-No-Bounds? Does-Stupidity-Have-No-Bounds? Does-Stupidity-Have-No-Bounds? Does-Stupidity-Have-No-Bounds? Does-Stupidity-Have-No-Bounds? Does-Stupidity-Have-No-Bounds? Does-Stupidity-Have-No-Bounds? Does-Stupidity-Have-No-Bounds? Does-Stupidity-Have-No-Bounds? Does-Stupidity-Have-No-Bounds? Does-Stupidity-Have-No-Bounds? Does-Stupidity-Have-No-Bounds? Does-Stupidity-Have-No-Bounds? Does-Stupidity-Have-No-Bounds?
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 Posted 06/22/2005  01:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add knowtracks to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I personally believe that NO coin should become permanent. One of the biggest insentives for putting together a set is because of the fact that they are no longer minted. I wouldn't be interested in collecting Shield nickels or Mercury dimes if they were still being minted.
Perhaps the Jeff's & Rosie's would gain a bigger following if they changed them up.
I would like to see coins change & grow, experiment with new designs & some old school also.
You can't tell me that this country does not have the talent.
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 Posted 06/22/2005  08:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rggoodie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Are we allowed to use any of the first lady coins for target practice?
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 Posted 06/22/2005  09:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CiScO to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The following quote from Mark Twain is so appropriate--

"Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself"

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 Posted 06/22/2005  11:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SFDukie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by CiScO

The following quote from Mark Twain is so appropriate--

"Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself"

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 Posted 06/22/2005  8:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add crystalk64 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The first reason the First Spouse coins WON'T be used for target practice is that they are GOLD! The second would be that they will not be readily available as NO one will be buying them! Other than that enjoy your target practice.
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 Posted 06/22/2005  8:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kyra to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You'd have to have pretty good aim to use the First Lady coin for target practice- either that or really good eyesight! Seeing as how I couldn't hit the broad side of a barn, I'd be impressed by anyone who could do that!

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 Posted 06/22/2005  9:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rggoodie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Why couldn't congress remember the song
Bang Bang I shot you down- thanks for the words sonny & whats her name
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 Posted 06/22/2005  10:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add crystalk64 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Kyra I can take out that coin at 100 yds with one shot! Not bragging as I just have invested in the right equipment that makes this possible, even for an old man like me! As in anything, the more the money invested, the better the equipment and quality. So let me know when you get your first gold spouse and we will get together for a little target shooting! I regularly use a black stick-on dot, between the size of a nickel and a quarter, at a 100 yd range so this gold should be appropriate to my normal target!
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 Posted 06/22/2005  11:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rggoodie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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Originally posted by crystalk64

Kyra I can take out that coin at 100 yds with one shot! Not bragging as I just have invested in the right equipment that makes this possible, even for an old man like me! As in anything, the more the money invested, the better the equipment and quality. So let me know when you get your first gold spouse and we will get together for a little target shooting! I regularly use a black stick-on dot, between the size of a nickel and a quarter, at a 100 yd range so this gold should be appropriate to my normal target!


Terry
I prefer sporting clays- are you familiar with the game
if so
which coins could we use?
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 Posted 06/23/2005  09:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add crystalk64 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If we are going to do something moving we had better have really BIG coins for me! And, I CAN'T believe you mentioned Sonny and NOT CHER!!! It was HER song!
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 Posted 06/23/2005  11:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add neuron to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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Terry
I prefer sporting clays- are you familiar with the game
if so
which coins could we use?



Please use some Eisenhower dollars. Those things give me the creeps, and I bet you could hit them fairly readily with some #7.5 or 8 shot!


~neuron
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