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Fake Potosi 8 Reales Cob On Ebay

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 Posted 06/23/2013  04:20 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add diatonix to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Beware! Fake potosi 8 reales cob posted on ebay:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Spanish-Pie...0526e9#rpdId

I wonder whether it is possible to alert the 23 unsuspecting bidders?
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06/23/2013 04:33 am
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 Posted 06/23/2013  04:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add geoff hobson to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Complain to E Bay?
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 Posted 06/23/2013  05:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't know enough about these, but if you can prove they are fakes report them to ebay and get the auction pulled. (Just telling them they are fakes often isn't good enough, but if you can say WHY they are fakes it usually works well.)
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 Posted 06/23/2013  06:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add diatonix to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I did report it to ebay, but there are not many hours left and today being Sunday isn't helpful either. As to it being a fake: http://www.sedwickcoins.com/fake_cobs.htm
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06/23/2013 07:00 am
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 Posted 06/23/2013  10:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is that exact coin on Sedwick's page?
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 Posted 06/23/2013  12:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add diatonix to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The 2 coins seem to be identical, which means that they originate from the same batch of fake coins.
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 Posted 06/23/2013  12:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Could you help us out and tell us which one?
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 Posted 06/23/2013  1:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MathieuMa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
bobby131313 : it's reference #FC53663 on Sedwick's page ( http://www.sedwickcoins.com/fake_cobs.htm )
I've reported it as well, but before seeing this (using the coin community link as usual)
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 Posted 06/23/2013  9:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add realeswatcher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Technically, this is more of a replica/repro than a "fake"... I've seen one iteration of these in a type of promotional packaging - I believe it came out of Guatemala IIRC?

Aside from that... Time after time, I simply can't fathom how people are willing to spend several hundred dollars on a type of coin they clearly know absolutely nothing about. Does this sort of look like a Potosi 1696 8R? Yes. Is it a faithful-enough rendition that it should fool people into dropping $200 on one? NO!!
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 Posted 06/24/2013  2:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikelley to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Same coin? I bought this one in Barcelona years ago for $5 US!

Mike

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 Posted 06/24/2013  3:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MathieuMa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
PS : 33 bidders, sold for 194,50
ebay replied yesterday : we forwarded your inquiry to the coin community watch group ...
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 Posted 06/24/2013  3:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add realeswatcher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yup, another iteration of the same fake. Note the slight difference in alignment of the detail and shape of the planchet... but ultimately derived from the same stamp.

Found the photo of one of these with a case it came in... sure they were marketed w/other types of packaging as well:

Fake-Potosi-8-Reales-Cob-On-Ebay
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06/24/2013 4:26 pm
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 Posted 06/24/2013  5:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add diatonix to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just for the record: the seller ("vintagecargo") cannot claim that he didn't know the coin was a fake/replica. With still about 20 hours to go, I sent him a very polite message, providing him with the necessary proof and asking him to call off the auction. Alas, there was no reaction...

Nice wooden case, realeswatcher! Reminds me of the traditional toilet still found in many older Norwegian farm outhouses...
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06/24/2013 5:35 pm
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 Posted 06/24/2013  5:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add realeswatcher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
"Reminds me of the traditional toilet still found in many older Norwegian farm outhouses"

Um, thanks for that imagery...
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