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Ten minutes worth of research offered me this:
1) 1914/3 is thought to be a Master Die or hubbing thing. There are overdates known from all 3 mints, and some think the overdates may be on every single die produced, whether you can see them or not. Multiple different Philadelphia dies are known, but only the originally-discovered die is referred to as FS-101.
2) PCGS only attributes FS-101, and neither of the branch mints.
3) It's going to take a real expert to conclusively attribute yours, in such a worn condition. I don't even know if it's possible. Quite frankly, I'm not taking SEGS' word for it unless they state their specific reasons; I know them to have made (are maybe still making) one egregious misattribution error with 1921 Morgans which has cost me confidence in them.
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Bill Fivaz or JT Stanton ( Cherry Pickers Guide authors) may be able to help, David Lange is considered one of the foremost authorities on Buffalos so contacting his also could lead you in your search for the answer. I can't tell on your coin, nor do I have that level of experience with Buffalo varieties. Good luck.
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Getting to the poiny:
I just do not see it!
KK
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It's final trip will be to ANACS. After that, hmmmmmmmmm...
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If the top 2 aren't attributing this, maybe that is a good indicator that this is not worth pursuing...
Sorry to be so blunt, but maybe time to cut your losses. Best of luck.
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The saga continues.............
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I sent a 1914/3 Buffalo into PCGS. Previous to that I sent photos of the coin to David Lange to confirm it was the overdate. He told me he thought it was the over date and also told me NGC does not acknowledge that variety because their graders can not do it with consistency. So off to PCGS it went. The coin came back in a regular PCGS 1914 holder as MS-64 and with a note that they only list the 14/3 die pair 2 (the one in the Cherry Pickers Guide) as the over date. Mine was die pair 6 with a very clear over date but to them, didn't matter. Also talked to Ron Pope about it. He has written a book called Buffalo nickels, The Abraded Die Varieties. Sold the coin but only for a fraction of what a die pair 2 would go for.
Edited by IndianGoldEagle 06/30/2013 8:11 pm
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Here are some shots from Ron Pope's book on what the Die Pair 2 (FS#-05-1914P-101) should look like. It is the only one PCGS will ID as the overdate. PCGS will be looking for the heavy die polish marks around the top of the 4.  
Edited by IndianGoldEagle 06/30/2013 8:45 pm
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Thoughts anyone on ANACS? I think day in and day out they do the best job of attributing they just don't get the premium that the "big two" do. With the coin in hand I "appear" to be able to pick out all the characteristics of pair '2' including the die chip under the chin. PG
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