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I've been collecting Vermonts for a few years and the 1787 Bust Left Ryder 15 has came up for sale a few times. Neither piece appealed to me and I'm glad I waited. At the Heritage Auction at CSNS in April.....this specimen came up in an NGC Good details holder. I bid quick and I bid high and it held up. After getting the coin in I unslabbed it and noticed an oval planchet and a light weight of 93.7 grains. Typical of Rupert Mint issues the planchet is flawed but far less than many. Glossy and smooth most of the obverse surface is really planchet related . The large Cud is in an early state and there is no die crack from the you to the head. About twenty of these are known, with most in institutional of long term collections.  .  . |
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Very nice! This is a neat variety, the obverse was also used for the Ryder 11. The reverse used for your coin could not have lasted long. Like you stated flawed planchets were the norm for this issue.
BTW, welcome to the CCF!
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Sweet!   |
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Thanks for sharing this beautiful coin. There are lots of early copper collectors here so I hope you stay around and join us. Member ANA and EAC "You got to lose to know how to win". Dream On by Aerosmith |
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The Vermonts are captivating. Here's another, this is a Ryder 10.   |
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to CCF! Great colonial!  Thanks for sharing! I don't have a Vermont yet, but it is on my list:) |
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Wait 'til Vermontensium sees this.  |
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This is one of my babies, this was Ted Craiges specimen. Ihis paper envelope notes it would be CC but for the punch near the flaw. A nice coin though with crisp structure and smooth fields.  .  |
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A coin only a Mother or a Vermont collector can love, the Ryder 1 Immune Columbia. All are different, and this one is well centered and nice details The date is seldom seen and while it says 1765 this was perhaps the last Vermont variety struck in 1789 at Machins Mills. It's small, only 25.6 mm.   |
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Very impressive ambro51! The Ryder 15 is an extremely tough coin in any condition. All known specimens exhibit the massive die break obliterating the date area. I've been waiting for a Ryder 1 for some time now...I'm patient :) Here are a few of mine. Ryder 10   Ryder 7   Ryder 9   Ryder 6   I have a Ryder 2 also but can't find the picture. Love your Baby Head! swcoin.ecrater.com
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There you are! I do love that Ryder 6 of yours. 15 may have rarity on its side, but there's nothing quite as... lyrical... as a landscape copper.
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I've always wondered why the eyeballs are looking to the right.
Harmon's design was one in which the coin represented a new day in Vermont with the sun rising over the Green Mountains..prosperity.
It was well received by the people but not so much by the other Colonial legislatures.
He was forced to change the design back to the bust types in 1786.
It is believed he was mocking them when the oversized Baby Head was introduced :)
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I've completely lost track of all the fabulous coins shown in this thread ... to ambro51. Hoping you pull up a stool and enjoy the family experts discussion. David |
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But there were other coppers in other States that didn't mimic the British halfpenny, and nobody forced them to change. And Massachusetts' stick-figure Indian and the sock-puppet horse of New Jersey weren't nearly as nice as the Vermont landscape copper!
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I absolutely concur ;-) The Ryder 15 seldomly shows up at auction, heck the Ryder 10 for that matter. When I saw my Ryder 10 on ebay a few years back, I knew it was destined for my collection  The Ryder 15 is impressive. Thanks again for sharing ambro51 By the way, I've been to Rupert in the search for the elusive Mint along Millbrook. I came upon a Colonial foundation covered in green moss. I detected the area, but came up with square nails and a colonial horse bit. I went to this guys farm who claimed to have the original mint building. On the inside boards, there was a sign that said Harmon's Mint. It was old but I doubt it was the original mint building. He told me his grandfather moved it here in the 30's to the farm location. I have pictures somewhere. swcoin.ecrater.com
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