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Help!! What Is This Strange Looking US Nickel?

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I found this coin while sorting through a bulk foriegn coin lot I recently
purchased in an online auction. It appears to be a 1938 U.S. Nickel with a
different portrait of Thomas Jefferson facing left on the obverse and the
reverse is similar to the original Monticello design , except for a few subtle
changes including what appears to be smoke coming from the chimney and an
outline of the state of Virginia added below the steps..
It IS NOT stamped "COPY" on either side, it has a smooth plain edge without
lettering and it appears to be in medal alignment instead of coin alignment. I
know 1938 was a transitional year for the design but I have yet to find anything
as to the origin of this odd looking nickel! Any input, thoughts, or ideas
would be greatly appreciated by this novice newbie!




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 Posted 07/02/2013  11:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadToTheBone to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting but isn't that some kind of medal. I've seem to have seen something about that a while ago.
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I believe this is the result of dies made from a plaster model. It was struck around 1998 to commemorate the 60th anniversary of the Jefferson nickel submitted by Frans Karel Hejda. These are struck in sterling silver. This is made from dies made from original plasters of 1938 that sold in 1994 at auction. Plasters were reduced to dies and this was one of the 390 submissions in the contest that was ultimately won by Felix Schlag. Mintage is supposed to be around 1,998 pcs.
I have seen them sell anywhere from $25.00 to more than double that.
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The 1938 nickel competition submission is not from Frans Karel Hejda as it is most often and erroneously ascribed, but rather the father and son team of William (Wilhelm) and Frank Hejda. Frank and Willem and relatives of my wife and we own what we believe is the the original submission mold inscribed with the words Competition.

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to CCF and please share an picture of your plaster mold. I would love to see that.
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to the Community, annisquam!

Thank you for sharing that.
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TNG, I posted a picture of the mold along with the post. Hopefully you can see it.
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to the community annisquam

Thats way cool annisquam! Thank you for sharing that plaster.

How big is it?
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Way cool! Too bad that design didn't win...
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This thread became really interesting really quickly! Thanks for the background, annisquam!
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Awesome plaster. Wow! Thanks for the clarifications and that image follow-up.
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Annisquam to CCF, This is interesting!
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Quote:
Thats way cool annisquam! Thank you for sharing that plaster.


I agree--it is always nice to get follow up like this.
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Looked around to see if I could find anything else out about this piece and actually ended up finding a different thread on this forum about it from 2014.
http://goccf.com/t/184933

Has a little more info but back then they also didn't have the info about the real designer I think.
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Great info! Thanks for sharing.
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Traveling to Vienna in a few weeks to show our grandchildren some of Wilhelm Hejda's works. Started doing some online research and forgot I had posted this last year. Someone asked the size of the plaster it is 24" by ~14". The "coin" sizes are 8" the plaster is apps 3" inches thick and the piece is relatively heavy. Evidently, only US citizens were allowed to enter the nickel design contest yet Wilhelm's proflfic bas relief and medallion designs strongly suggest it was a team effort. Wilhelm was my wife"s great grand father, Frank (Franz) was her grandfather. Frank had a design studio in Manhattan in the middle third of the last century.
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