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Small 12mm Token Patterned Like A Civil War 2 Cent Piece

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My son and I are new to this forum and coins in general. My son recently purchased a bag of mixed coins and we came across what looked like at first, to be a civil war 2 cent piece. The differences were that in the place of the date is the word "counter" and on the back is the phrase "imitation L. Chr. Lauer Nurnberg"

I take it that this is a replica or token but I cannot find any information online. If anyone can give us some clues, we would appreciate the information.

Also, if this is a duplicate question, please forgive us! like I said, we are rookies to the world of coins and are quickly getting addicted. Thanks in advance!



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 Posted 07/03/2013  12:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fuzzy317 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
can you post an image, front and back?
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i am working on that now! I am traveling and trying to get the pictures from my iphone onto this thread. keep your fingers crossed for me and thanks for the quick reply!
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hello and welcome.

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I take it that this is a replica or token

Correct. The Lauers were one of the last of the great token and play money manufacturers of Nuremberg, Germany, which was once home to dozens of family businesses in that trade.

If you do a forum search for the word "Lauer", you'll find numerous other examples of tokens, medals, jetons and play money coins made by various members of this family. But I don't think anyone's posted an American 2¢ from them before.
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Thanks for the information. Since you said that you haven't seen a 2 cent posted before, would you feel that this is worth hanging onto for the historical value even if the true monetary value isn't there? My son is just starting his collection and I want to have those peices that hold his interest and fuel his curiosity in coins and history. He is 10 and has truly fallen in love with coins. Thanks for your thoughts.

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one last question for anyone following this thread. This token does not have a date marked anywhere on it. Can anyone venture an estimate to the age of this piece? Thanks again.
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1842-1873
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In addition to what has been posted, they were used as game counters/money in the games during that time period. Well it does fall under Tokens rather than coins. So it is a separate field or part of the over all coin collecting hobby. As a token collector, Yes it is worth the cost of a 2x2 flip with the information you have found, to keep in his collection.
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1842-1873

I think we can narrow the date range a little further, since now we can see the pictures, we can say Mr. Lauer has obviously copied an actual American 2¢ piece. 1864-1873 can therefore be considered a reasonable date range.

As for its collectability: "toy coins" such as this may not be listed in the "mainstream" coin catalogues, but they are hundred-year-old artefacts in their own right, and some people certainly consider them worth collecting. Whether you and your son do so or not is entirely up to you. There are no "rules" in coin collecting regarding what you can and cannot collect. Collect what you can afford, but most of all, collect what you enjoy.
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Thanks to everyone who posted on this thread! I completely agree with you Sap about then intrinsic value of this piece as a part of history and we will definitely keep this in his collection. He actually purchased a 1 pound bag of coins from a local shop and found several coins over 100 years old. He was hooked! Also, two of the coins were from the 1940's and were from the German Reich at the time so he was fascinated by the historical context of those pieces! It is amazing for us to see the history stored in coins! Amazing!

Thanks again for everyone's thoughts and time in our search!
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I'm by no means an expert, but I do collect toy money and Lauer in particular. Not only have I never seen this type before, I've never even heard of it.
IMHO may have a reasonable rarity in your son's collection.
It's also great that he's taken an interest now. Coin collecting impinges on history, geography, mathematics, statistics, sociology and a whole lot more. All this you learn without realising and it's a wonderful start for a youngster.
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