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New Member
Singapore
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It is the first time for me to collect a 8 Reales coin, so I have no experience to identify them. Could any one help me to identify if it is genuine of counterfeit, or give any comments? The condition is: 39mm in diameter, though it is not strict round. And it is 26.81830g in weight. The strange thing is, the coin surface is not flat but scraggly, concave in the crown side, protrude in 1798 side, is it normal? Thank you very much for any comments. Frank      |
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Valued Member
United Arab Emirates
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The numbers look suspicious.
Did you test it with a magnet, To see if it is silver?
I might be wrong with the numbers.
It is normal if old coins are concave on a side, it happens due to improper handling or some hammering attempts (Which I doubt, because it looks damageless)
IF it is real, that is a really great find.
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New Member
 Singapore
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Thank you very much for your reply, it has no action to magnet, and when I flip it, it sounds like silver. Hope it is not fake, because it is not cheap.
Edited by frank110119
07/03/2013 11:30 am
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New Member
Singapore
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More pictures about this one, hope it is clearer now.   |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2637 Posts |
The numbers look like my 1796. 26.37 grams, but it has also been beaten to a pulp.   |
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Valued Member
United Arab Emirates
283 Posts |
The 7 was just a little off its place if you look at an original one.
But after some thinking, this might actually be genuine!
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
785 Posts |
Everything looks ok with it. As already pointed out the numbers do look a bit suspicious but with everything stated so far I would say it is most likely genuine. A great coin I would be happy to have in my collection if real.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Personally I do not like the edge, the nose or the mouth and would pass on this coin as "questionable".
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I have limited experience and much of what I know has come from reading the posts of our resident experts. I don't like the edge either. Some of the circles look squared which I believe is a bad sign. I would have to say it is very suspicious.
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New Member
Singapore
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Thank you all for the comments. I rechecked the coin, the letter "R" in REX, seems has redundance, is it normal? Or it is a bad fake?
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Valued Member
United Arab Emirates
283 Posts |
It is least probably an error, which probably isn't.
I am not sure though.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
684 Posts |
jfransch I agree with your points and would go one step further, the coin is fake.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
808 Posts |
For what it's worth HA.com recently added a 1798 Carlos IIII (VF, cleaned) for an upcoming auction. There's no edge photo available but the very high resolution obverse and reverse photos are nice for observing fine details. I've been comparing this coin to the OP's photos. I certainly don't have the expertise to make any assessment but the comparison has been an interesting learning exercise. |
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New Member
Singapore
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coinwatch, thank you very much for your reply. I am growing believe that it is a genuine coin now after talking and checking with some friends.
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Valued Member
United States
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Not an expert in Colonials but I am somewhat apprehensive about this one. The engraving of the date "1798" appears correct but I've seen none which have the "8" for 8R on the reverse looking quite like that. Also there appears to be a Cud or something on the R of REX reverse. The coin appears somewhat porous and is lacking in high relief detail. Of course this could be due to wear. Also there appears to be some sort of deposits in around the lettering. The coin appears that it could possibly be a cast made from a worn 1798 specimen. This would account for the Cud over the R as well as the porosity and deposits. How does it do on a ring test? I have an AU 1797 bought from CE Bullowa auction circa 1982 and also a high end 1795 bought from a Dan Sedwick auction. I'll try to look at my specimens and, if properly harassed, can get them out of the box & try to photograph them: particularly the edges. Edited by Gallienus
07/19/2013 12:06 am
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New Member
Singapore
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Gallienus, thank you very much for your reply. Yes, please upload your pictures, so that we can compare to identify mine
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