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How To Know Everything About Gold & Silver Miners!

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 Posted 07/04/2013  1:44 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add yup7676 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Ok, I have a little bit of time so I want to share with everyone here who has an interest in learning more about gold and silver mining companies and wants to hear directly from the companies themselves. This is how to BEST get unfiltered and factual information without relying on the worthless financial media which always is late in reporting or skips important details.

I personally dont make much use of the SEC info as a trader however investing wise, this is the way to do it because by law all companies must report what they are doing in their reports and every single detail of what they do, how they do it, their costs and outlook are detailed in their reports. This is way better than any source info out there and really this is where it all starts.

By following companies on the SEC web site you can-

* See who is investing and divesting LARGE positions in gold and silver miners. Please keep mind tho there is a major lag in their reporting to the SEC, which they are allowed to do. Which, to my point, shows you why PRICE action tells us WAY before its reported what is happening. Nonetheless, you can see if big funds and institutions have indeed cut back or added if the positions are 5% or more.

* You can read directly what the company is saying directly about future prospects in plain English, how they will handle production costs, project and contractual obligations and other risk factors. You will get a grasp for what costs are for them.

Keep in mind these reports are very long and have every single detail spelled out to the penny. In many cases they can be confusing and outright boring. So here's how to get to the most important part of the reports. BTW, for you investors in the market, you can also use this SEC info for any other stocks.

OK HERE WE GO!!

I am going to use Newmont Mining as an example, follow these steps and you can expand your knowledge about the miners.

1. go to sec.gov

2. On the main page go to the box or heading that says "Search EDGAR For Company Filings".

3. Go to the box that says "Fast Search" and type in the companies stock symbol. Type in NEM which is the stock symbol for Newmont.

4. When you search EDGAR, it pulls up every single form that the company has filed with the SEC and you also will see reports listed as 13Gs. The company will have filed with the SEC press releases and various other forms which could include officers of the company selling or buying shares or exercising options on company stock, financial documents related to company costs or projects. There is a wealth of data there.

I mentioned earlier the form 13G. By law, when any bank, mutual fund or investor purchases over 5% of the shares, they must file a form with the SEC and disclose it within a specified time. This form lags as the SEC allows them to do this so that other market participants don't know exactly who is doing it. Again, the only thing that would tell you is: PRICE ACTION. BTW, if a big fund knocks down their 5% position or more, they must also disclose that. Please keep in mind again, this info lags the market place reaction.

5. Now if you really want to know what NEM is estimating cost wise per project and how they are managing costs and what they are saying about the future of their industry, you want to click on the "10-Q" document. Click on it and open it up.

6. This quarterly report breaks EVERYTHING DOWN. A lot of info and feel free to read the entire report. However, what you are looking for is the line that states, from the table of contents "Managements discussion and analysis". This is the meat of the report and it says everything in pretty much easy to understand language. Here you can see costs, guidance, how they hedge and even learn what RISK factors they see going forward.

And that's it! Now you can keep up to date what the gold and silver miners are doing and you don't need to have the facts filtered by the financial news media. You can learn and judge for yourself what is really going on in the gold and silver mining sectors.

I hope this plethora of information helps everyone learn more about gold and silver prices and miners.



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Hmmmm..
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Thanks for the info Yup
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Sure anytime, hope everyone finds it useful. This is the BEST source for info, forget what you read or hear in the financial media, its old and filtered by the time it gets to the public.
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helpful info thanks again!
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Just bumping this up since a lot of folks talking about mining stocks. The SEC.gov site offers a WEALTH of free info available to the public.

It is the exact same site that all financial media sites, agencies, brokerages etc are pulling their info from.

Whats also interesting here is you can see as funds are adding to their positions when they have to file what are known at 13Gs.... when they purchase 5% or more of a company.

please make use of this site and follow the directions in my first post in the thread.

The managements discussion is where you really want to read up. Here you can see what the management team is thinking about the future, what current issues are going on at the company etc.
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It's a good approach to look at gold and silver production. However this is limited to companies that are involved with US in one way or the other. The real challenge is to find out information from other countries that produce significant amount of gold such as South Africa and Russia. I believe Australia and Canada's information can be easily obtained but I suspect the other two would be difficult.

It's usually the geological challenges where most people will struggle to understand. Even within long term planning, there's little you can do if the geological model is inaccurate and this will skew production figures. South Africa is a prime example - production figures are dropping mainly because the geological condition. The gold vein is dipping steeper than expected and hence driving production cost up dramatically. Try explaining that to an investor - he will not take that for an answer. (which unfortunately is reality)

I did remember a geologist being adamant that geology dictates mining practices and without having a good understanding of geology, that can make your business go bust. There was a famous case of one of the world's largest oil companies (could be Shell or BP) that missed their drilling by only tens of meters and assumed that it had little prospective. They sold the rights to another company. Turned out to be a rather large oil deposit which was acknowledged to be one of their biggest mistakes. I have to look it up - just cannot remember the exact details now.
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