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 Posted 07/08/2013  2:22 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Minhsun to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Anyone know any trust place or website to send in the silver/gold coin for refinery ?

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 Posted 07/08/2013  3:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I could never see the sense in paying a refiner to refine and melt coins of a known weight and purity.
Seems to me like a waste of time and in the process there is every chance coins with a numismatic interest/value get destroyed.
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 Posted 07/08/2013  3:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bpoc1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
How can you have a gold coin ready for melt? Reality setting in as
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I could never see the sense in paying a refiner to refine and melt coins of a known weight and purity.

Granted it can be done but, a lot of cost factors need to be looked at.
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 Posted 07/08/2013  4:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JSH to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Do you want to sell to a refiner or have a refiner turn your gold into something else?
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 Posted 07/08/2013  6:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bekiz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
you can melt a coin and make a bar
but
you cannot melt a bar and make a coin

if you are not a mint
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 Posted 07/08/2013  8:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add starbuxinvestor to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Remember whoever smelt it dealt it.
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07/09/2013 10:41 am
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 Posted 07/09/2013  09:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I entirely agree with trout 1105.
Why pay the costs of refining, unless you really need the pure silver, for some industrial process? THEN it will cost you more than an ASW price, unless that has already been factored in, with a discount buying price.

Who wants to sell their scrap silver for less than melt ASW price?
Better to trade them for their actual silver weight, and save refining costs.
The purity of silver in coins was very accurately controlled.
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 Posted 07/12/2013  08:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nealeffendi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Everybody who answered the OP only opined why they wouldn't get the coins melted, but can someone answer the OP of how/where you can get them refined?
I love my junk silver, but there is still maybe over 1000 ounces (ASW) that is junk. Bent, corroded, acid dipped, pierced and without any redeeming feature (such as scarce date, mint mark, error or variety). That stuff that I stack for the silver value.
So how do you get a nice 1000 ounce .999 ingot cast at an honest refiner?
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 Posted 07/12/2013  08:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Trade your scrap silver, and BUY the biggest poured silver bar for the price in the exchange.
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 Posted 07/12/2013  09:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JSH to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I asked what the OP wanted to do (sell to a refiner, or have a refiner make something from his gold/silver). No reply. Without knowing what he wants to do it is hard to make a recommendation.

If he wants to sell: http://www.midwestrefineries.com/

If he wants his gold refined into something else I don't know of anyone that does that except for a local jeweler. My wife's wedding ring was custom made and we supplied the gold in the form of salvaged gold wire. I doubt a jeweler would be interested in pouring bars.
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 Posted 07/12/2013  12:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinwatch to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think some forum members in the past have discussed creating their own bars and rounds using everything from scrap silver to junk coins that have lost their numismatic value. I can't speak for the OP but I'd see doing something like this is a hobby experiment rather than an investment.

At least he's considering using a refinery. Sounds much MUCH safer than someone wanting to handle molten metal at home.
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 Posted 07/19/2013  12:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Minhsun to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Cause I got some little junk coins at home. Seems hard to make the trade around my area.

So was thinking about refine it and put into safety box. .

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 Posted 07/19/2013  11:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add argentum to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What is the nature of these little junk coins.

If you are going to put them into a safety box, why do you need to melt them? Could you not just put them into a ziplock bag and put in the box?
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 Posted 07/20/2013  06:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Circus to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Silversmithing, and jewelery work has scrap filing,dust, assorted pieces. This is the best site to find a list of the better companies that are in that line of work. They include companies that will refine the gold and silver dust out of the carpet in the work rooms of shops. http://www.ganoksin.com/site-map.htm Since you have Canada listed best way would be to join and ask your question there. You will save time, and get good info.
Another way is find a local that does silver smithing/casting and see if they can or will do it and maybe you can watch.
Problem with the refineries is you will have to find one that does batch work. Generally people don't care if it is their silver just the amount for the price etc. Since they are running a biz and they will run the melter at capacity for profit sake.
Or you can buy a small melting furnace and do it your self, they start for under $600.
http://www.ottofrei.com/Kerr-Electr...ng-Supplies/ Or a crucible and oxygen/fuel torch. And do it yourself.
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 Posted 07/20/2013  07:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rastatodd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Company's name is Market Harmony. You can Google it. The gentlemen started his business in 2007 and is excellent in his craft. Seek him out a see if it is a fit.
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07/20/2013 08:56 am
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 Posted 07/20/2013  08:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jenger to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Because I would be worried about the re-sale problems with a home-made ingot, I too would opt to sell the coins as is and take that money to buy a well known bar.
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