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Hi All,I am new to collecting and have found the following ebay listing. Is this a true 1930 Birmingham rare australian penny. I understand only possible 2 exist. The 0 looks fat all round in 1930. It shouldn't be like that.. What do you all think.... http://www.ebay.com/itm/penny-Book-...t_102wt_1172 |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Hang on, the Ozzies should be all over this.
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Hang on, the Ozzies should be all over this. They will be when I drop this in the Australian Forum.  But first. A "real deal" London Penny:   ebay coin:  All you have to look at is the 9 and the 3. I cannot imagine differing dates being used on such a small mintage. One added note: quick research seems to indicate that the "193" of the date was set in the Master Die, and therefore cannot be different between mints. |
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Australia
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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Its actually minted at the Beijing Mint
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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Looks like the item went bye bye ......  Trout & Enworb fake chinese as! (Shocker!) Just look at the 9 in comparison (good pics SsuperDdave) |
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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I have not chased info. on '30 pennies for decades.
Therefore, I stand to be corrected on what follows:
I had understood that there were only London and Indian dies.
How come a BIRMINGAM die?
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In the pictures presented, there is an obvious difference in the top and bottom of the "0" 's.
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Pillar of the Community
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How come a BIRMINGAM die?
There may be a province in China called Birmingham Sel   |
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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without sounding to paranoid do you think the original poster shares the same email address as the ebay account? |
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Valued Member
Australia
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Is it a Birmingham penny just 'slightly' modified to 1930. regards ErikP
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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No ErikP, it's just an outright poor attempt at making one. These are not altered 'real' pennies, they are minted in China.
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Valued Member
Australia
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
560 Posts |
I think it was minted in Nigeria, I heard there was a good mint there.
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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sel I think there was a Birmingham reverse die.
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New Member
Australia
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For Australian King George V Penny Coins; Birmingham dies were used for a few penny reverses, Rim Dentricle count 177; India die(also called Calcutta die, Rim Dentricle count 178,London Die Rim Dentricle count 174
There has never been a 1930 penny Authenticated by Royal Australian Mint that didnot have a London Reverse Die. The fact that at least two London Obverse Die coins were issued mint letters does make for interesting words over beer among 1930 enthusiasts.
Easiest check for real thing is get some hi-res scans of certified 1930 and overlay with suspect coin image in a photo propram. As more info gets out on the security checks in the pennies the serious forgeries get better and better.
This particular Maxx Scammer has been trying to dud people with this most obvious fake for some time and is still doing it!!
Edited by jamessmith
07/17/2013 2:31 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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NO ONE in their right mind would sell a genuine '30 penny on ebay, for fear of not getting enough for it. |
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