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Opinions On An "Error" $5 Bank Note

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 Posted 07/15/2013  9:50 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add gweidion to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I'm keen to see what the experts here think of this one.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/27123819236...ht_737wt_962

apart from the terrible quality photos.

Is this an acetone job?
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 Posted 07/16/2013  05:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mr T to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A fingernail job I'd say, but I don't think it's a genuine error.
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 Posted 07/16/2013  06:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jeff to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is definitely worth $5 and any bank will give you that for it and put it into their "mutes" bundle.
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 Posted 07/16/2013  08:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nevol to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
From that seller, you can bet it's a faked 'error'. The poor sucker that wins it will lose all but $5 on it.
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 Posted 07/17/2013  08:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gweidion to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Some poor sod paid $410 plus postage for this fraud and the same seller has another dodgy note up for sale. A shame ebay won't do anything about it.
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 Posted 07/17/2013  7:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Craig to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
How can you tell if its a fake error? What are the tell tale signs on the note? does it degrade the polymer also?
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Catch 22, tell how to pick them and the shonk will work out a better forgery that is harder to pick! Try find a person who was at high school when poymer came in. Lots of kids were doing these conversions. They might tell you how they done it.
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 Posted 07/19/2013  8:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mr T to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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How can you tell if its a fake error? What are the tell tale signs on the note? does it degrade the polymer also?


The fact that the rest of the black ink isn't missing. Design will be missing if the ink runs out (and it won't run out in just the middle of the note) or if something else is sitting on top of the note (and it's very very unlikely that there'll be a scrap of something exactly the same shape as the Queen's head land on that note during production).
You can also see trace of the black ink left too, and what's there isn't consistent with a printer running dry.
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 Posted 07/19/2013  11:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yep, all the black ink is applied in one pass through the printer, except I believe for the signatures. The probability of the black ink "just happening" to run out exactly where the portrait is, and nowhere else, is extremely remote. Occams Razor says it's bogus.

And not necessarily a fake error note maker. It could simply be an anti-monarchist stating their case. The $5 denomination certainly seems to suffer more from "missing portrait syndrome" than the other denominations which don't show Her Majesty.
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And not necessarily a fake error note maker
The seller of this particular note has previously sold 3 other similar $5 notes, so it's my guess that he is the maker.
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