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Since there's no luster remaining, the best I can say is EF details, environmental damage + cleaning. Unsure what I'd pay.
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 with XF details. I'll say it worth 15-20$. |
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I don't like it. The date look weird. There is a lump of metal in the feathers above the T. The wreath looks rough and the details are kind of mushy.
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This came with a lot or three I got for $7.50. Actually, I was having issues receiving it due to the packing. I didn't think I would get them and was refunded. It traveled to near me, when back to the seller and finally was delivered. I sent him the money through Paypal without the shipping because of the issue. Too bad about the "details" grade but it is what it is. How does the date look weird? What metal are you seeing? It looked good to me for the price even though I figured it was a "details" coin. At first I thought it was VF Details but after scanning it, I could see it was XF Details. Well you know it isn't fake. Why add some problems to decrease the value majorly?
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07/24/2013 04:07 am
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I agree with EF details grade but, for $7.50 I think you did just great.  |
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absolutely agree! I would buy a boatload of those at that price.
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lump of metal above the T in LIBERTY on the headband. I believe it is real, but in bad shape as others have said.
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07/24/2013 1:40 pm
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You did fine with at that price! |
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I'm with D0ubl3Eagle. It could be a combination of the lighting angle and surface color, but the 8 and the 7 look off from the coins I've compared it to.
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I am a little confused about comparing one date to the next, since minting wasn't that technically advanced back then. I do not know how they did dates back then, but have seen date variations before. I don't see no hunk of metal. Maybe I will look at it under magnification. Technically I didn't have to pay anything for it. The coins arrived after being issued a refund. There probably was an issue with that he bent the envelope and shipping label in half and taped it and taped over a lot of stuff on the label. It went back to him then back to me. I decided to send him the amount of the auction win minus the shipping amount directly through Paypal.
I agree with the XF details though.
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07/24/2013 3:07 pm
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The date was added last to the die, after hubbing the obverse design. According to Rick Snow, there are at least 76 obverse dies, so there are at least that many date positions. From what I can see, the shape of the date digits and the positions relative to another look like the date punch for 1876--just one opinion based on looking at 1876 in the Snow IHC variety guide. |
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I do not like the date...it just looks "off", the numbers look too thick for the cent.
I have been wrong before.
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Quote:The date was added last to the die, after hubbing the obverse design. According to Rick Snow, there are at least 76 obverse dies, so there are at least that many date positions. From what I can see, the shape of the date digits and the positions relative to another look like the date punch for 1876--just one opinion based on looking at 1876 in the Snow IHC variety guide. Right, minting wasn't exact like it was today. I know this has been explained to me here before when asking about dates that looked a little off. Saying "I don't like the date, it looks off" doesn't really explain much since many dates from coins back then are "off". It is a circulated coin and realize that dates can be affected by wear or maybe even get squashed. It seems you know a bit about date punching and varieties of older coins. The coin looks kind of nice to me and don't think it is in that rough of shape. I have seen much worse better date coins being sold. It also came with a pretty low grade 1883 and a kind of ugly, glossy looking 1895. I technically didn't have to pay since my money was refunded due to shipping issues. When it arrived I sent the auction amount to the seller via Paypal. I subtracted the shipping amount since there appeared to be issues with the way he folded over the label. Edited by buddy16cat
07/24/2013 4:54 pm
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As someone pointed out though, there are 76 different dies used and 76 different date positions. You are comparing one penny with another penny without taking into consideration that there are 76 different date positions and that minting was not exact back then.
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Posted 07/23/2013 11:46 pm
