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Help/Thoughts On A Columbian

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 Posted 07/29/2013  12:26 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add paleoguy45 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I just received an 1893 Columbian Half Dollar this morning that is quite "striking" (so to speak ). It is an 1893 with beautiful iridescent blue toning and a strike stronger than I have ever seen (and I've seen quite a few of these since I'm named after the guy). The surfaces are mirror proof like and nothing like the MS ones I've had in the past. My question is two fold - What type of grade would you attach to this one and do you think this could be one of the very few proofs that were struck to be used as gifts to dignitaries? I'm providing several photos but with my setup it's impossible to convey the true beauty of this Commemorative and its surfaces. Paleoguy

p.s. I'm awaiting your response David!

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 Posted 07/29/2013  2:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jarubla to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Beauty coin!!
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While awaiting David's thoughtful insights, I offer the following observations...

It might just be the lighting used for your images, but I don't see a coin with the expected proof characteristics.

As a comparison, have a look at these images of a certified 1893 proof Columbian half-dollar: http://stacksbowers.com/auctions/Au...LotID=323432

When I compare your coin to the StacksBowers coin, I see more design detail in Columbus' hair, the ship's sails and the globes. However, as you have your coin in hand, you'll be better able to compare the strike characteristics of the two coins.

Also, from the images, the coin appears to have wear on the obverse highpoints and either wear or strike softness on the reverse in the ship's sails. While wear doesn't eliminate the possibility of the coin being a proof strike, I believe the level of detail in the sails does.

I'm no expert on 1892-93 Columbian proofs, just offering an opinion.


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Thanks for the great reference material Commems. I can find no wear on my coin, but I think you are correct in that this one is probably not a proof strike. I'm mainly basing that on the reverse lettering. In the proof the letting is rounded while on my coin it generally has a flat outer surface. Sorta like the Type 1 and Type 2 Susan B. proofs. I'll let David wade in and give his expert opinion. PG
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Geepers PG ... I as well claim no particular expertise in Proof versus MS strikes of the Columbian half ... but do offer the following opinions based on what I can see in your fine photographs.

IMHO the coin is a lovely business strike example of the 1893 coin.

You have the coin in hand ... appears from your photos that there is indeed some circulation rub present ... notable on the obverse portrait where Mr. Columbus lapel meets his neck .. and the weakness in the reverse ship rigging is likely strike quality.

My honest opinion ... AU58 business strike.

David
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