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Help Finding Some Old Coil Auction Catalogs

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 Posted 08/03/2013  10:35 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Susuman to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello Everyone.

I am trying to track down provenance on a few coins that I have. They apparently were purchased from an mail auction catalog by Bolender that was dated 1/27/1940. Does anybody have this auction issue? I have seen references to this catalog online, so I do know that they are around. The specific pages I am interested in are 75 and 76.

Thanks
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 Posted 08/04/2013  03:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GoldenChest to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I had to Google "provenance". I like the word. Sorry I know this doesn't relate to the OP.

I did do a quick search on ebay for you. This ebay auction has a set of catalogs for sale. I believe the gray one in the top row might be the the one your after. The photos are to fuzzy on my phone to make out the date completely. From what I see it is January, 2X, 194X. You could message the seller to be sure. He/she may have the one your after.

http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/view...=57625785469

Ps you have a typo in your title.
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08/04/2013 03:50 am
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 Posted 08/04/2013  03:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jack jeckel to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If you search ebay or elsewhere online and find the catalog for sale if the selling price is out of your budget a lot of honest sellers would be willing to make you a copy or take a picture of the page you need. If you can afford the catalog it would make a great companion to the coin if you ever look to sell it.

Maybe the ANA or the local coin club for the city that the auction was originally held in may have a copy of the catalog in their archives that they can help you out with.
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08/04/2013 04:02 am
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Quote:
I had to Google "provenance


If you ever watch Antiques Roadshow provenance can mean the difference between a boat anchor and $100K.
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08/04/2013 04:00 am
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 Posted 08/04/2013  09:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ExoGuy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Fred Lake could be an excellent resource on this quest. Here's a link to his website:

http://www.lakebooks.com/

Good luck!
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 Posted 08/04/2013  10:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add judd1552 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Bryce Brown of Connecticut has every one of M.H. Bolender's monthly auction catalogs from 1940 in stock.

http://brycebooks.squarespace.com/

You can tell him the coindeuce referred you.
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08/04/2013 10:11 pm
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 Posted 08/04/2013  11:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Susuman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Everybody

I am ordering the catalog from brycebooks as indicated below. If I am successful in linking some of my coins/tokens to one of the old auctions, I will post pictures and results.

For now, I need to wait for the catalog
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 Posted 08/22/2013  02:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Susuman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ok, I have some results. The two I have been able to track down so far are a pair of so-called dollars. These two so-called dollars were purchased from this auction by my grandfather in 1940. The auction is the sale of the late Rev. Fred W. Harris coin collection. First, here is the catalog.

Help-Finding-Some-Old-Coil-Auction-Catalogs

The two so-called dollars I have from this catalog are lot #s 1437 and 1442. Lot # 1437 is a 1933 Pedley-Ryan Type 1 HK-822. This token is very much uncirculated and shiny, but the scan makes it look really dull.

Lot # 1442 is a 1933 is a Colorado Dollar, Type 3, from the 1933 Century of Progress Worlds Fair, HK-869. The reverse is rotated about 30 degrees.

Help-Finding-Some-Old-Coil-Auction-Catalogs

Help-Finding-Some-Old-Coil-Auction-Catalogs

Here are the pages from the auction catalog that show the description of the lots.

Help-Finding-Some-Old-Coil-Auction-Catalogs

Help-Finding-Some-Old-Coil-Auction-Catalogs

My apologies that I haven't tracked down any old US coins yet, though I expect to in the future as I still have several Bolender Auction envelopes, and a few Max Mehl auction envelopes. If the mods decide to move this thread to the tokens and medals section, that is ok
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 Posted 08/22/2013  05:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tom Goodheart to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ooh! Cool thread!

You know, this is the first time I remember someone here (apart from me and a few of the ancient coin collectors) mentioning provenance. I guess it's because it doesn't apply with ASLs and CRH type collecting.

I think it's a fascinating aspect of coin collecting and I get very excited when I work out who previously owned one of my coins. I'd even pay more for a coin with provenance than one without!

Those coin envelopes are great Susman, presumably they are Bollender's with the numbers, with the comments added by your Grandfather? And very nice to have the catalogue to accompany them.

Here in the UK collectors used to keep similar records (though sadly, it seems to be a bit less fashionable now, what with computers and spreadsheets), often writing on little discs of paper a bit larger than the size of a coin. There is even an article in a copy of the British Numismatic Journal to help people identify the writing on such 'tickets' to a particular dealer or collector.

I'll be interested to see what other envelopes you have and what info you can find about them and the coins.

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08/22/2013 07:25 am
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 Posted 08/22/2013  09:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Tom, provenance is very important to collectors of early US copper and other early US that is widely collected by die variety.
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 Posted 08/22/2013  5:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Susuman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Tom Goodheart wrote: "Those coin envelopes are great Susman, presumably they are Bollender's with the numbers, with the comments added by your Grandfather?"

Yes, they are the original auction envelopes, and the writing is in my grandfathers hand.
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