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Not sure what I found, grade and price?

Thanks!


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VF details, appears to be a phillipines 1 cent coin? A buck maybe?
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phillipines with a F?
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All Philippines 1944 pieces are very common. Along with the "Victory Series 44" currency notes, they were produced in large quantities to accompany the forces sent to retake the islands from the Japanese. And the status of the Philippines peso as a kind of junior US dollar during the period up to 1946 somehow hasn't made it a target for specialist collectors the way US "homeland" issues are. The rim dings & general state of preservation seem to make this a very average specimen.
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I should have done a bit of research first. Thanks for the link!
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 Posted 08/06/2013  3:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chetzler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I remember seeing those in my old Red Book (1991 vintage), anyone know if they still included them in later Red Book issues? I remember thinking they seemed pretty cool because they were made by the US mint, but not for the US. I always wanted to find one but I don't recall ever having seen one in a coin shop. Nice fine!
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Yes, the Philippine issues are listed in the Red Book. About a month ago, I found several of the 1940s Philippine coins in the junk foreign coin box (12 coins for $2 if I remember). I got several that I was missing.

Another interesting note is that in 1920, the US opened and operated a mint in Manila to shift production of the Philippine coins. When the mint was opened, it was commemorated with a medal having president Wilson. This is now known as a Wilson Dollar (So-called dollar HK-449). There are not too many MS examples of the Wilson Dollar around as most of them were dumped into the ocean to keep them from the Japanese in 1942. The whole thing is a rather interesting story....

One thing that I do not understand is why the Manila mint is not listed with the other US mints on this website It was a US mint and made US labeled coins. Moderators, should this be added? Does anybody have any photos or other information?
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As far as the Manila mint, I can tell you that it was originally built by the Spanish, who used it to produce minors in the late 19th century, although the big pesos (equivalent to 5 Peseta pieces) were struck in Spain. This was probably because the machinery was all manually-operated, rather than steam-powered. I have a 10 centavos-de-peso piece of Alfonso, with the boy head, from this mint.

When the US forces arrived, they found that it was in some condition of disrepair, with a substantial amount of machinery still sitting in the crates it had been packed in when sent out from Spain perhaps decades before. There was considerable debate, as part of the overall Philippine currency question, on the question of refurbishing it & setting it going to produce, at the very least, small change ; but in the event, all the coinage for the Islands was executed in the US, generally at San Francisco, for years afterward.

This I learned from reading reports of the US military government, now available on-line. Very informative.
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At least in the Red Book, all US Philippine coins issued between 1922 and 1941 were minted in Manila. There were even three commemorative pieces issued in 1936, with one having a bust of Roosevelt.

I think that some time ago, I read that the US installed new equipment in the mint prior to its opening in 1920.

In the Red Book, the 1944S One Centavo Philippine coin is listed at $0.25 in VF grade, up to $5 in MS-63. There were 58,000,000 pieces minted.
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It's still cool even if it's not worth much.
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