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When Did Silver Coins Become Uncommon In Circulation?

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Being a young kid in the 60s I wasn't paying much attention to silver coins. I do remember my father giving me a coffee can half full of quarters and told me to separate the "Johnson quarters" out of it.

I was wondering if anybody remembers how long after the conversion did silver coins start becoming rare in circulation. Do you think the majority went to collectors and hoarders or did the government get hold of most of them?

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I remember my dad bringing home bags of 25c from Kansas City in '65. Dont recall the exact amount, but we gleaned several rolls from each. To see that many coins when you're a kid, I thought we were on easy street. Actually, it was a big hunk of my dad's monthly paycheck, as he was in the service.
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I think the Government was pretty agressive in pulling the silver off the market in 65. That led to a percieved coin shortage, as collectors were also gathering them up. If memory serves me right, that also was the reasoning behind limited productions of mint sets for those early years - as most coins were produced for production.
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Silver coins last circulated as new issues for circulation was in 1974, in Germany.
They did not last long in circulation, when the 1965 issue was in copper nickel.

Mexico issued bi metallic silver centred coins 1992 to 1995, but when the 1996 issue came out with a copper nickel centre, the silver centred ones did not last for long in circulation, either.

Greshams Law applied in both cases.

I collect World coins. 1974 is therefore, for me at least, the latest date in my collection.
I do however, have a 1992 Mexico .925 sterling silver centred 10 Pesos.

For the purposes of my collection, a coin has to at least be intended for general circulation, to actually be used as MONEY. 1974 is the nominal cut-off date for all countries in my collection. Most countries after about 1965 stopped issuing silver coins for general circulation.
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So was there a numismatic panic to acquire as much silver coinage as one could or were people slow to realize what was happening?

Was it major news or did they do it on the QT, like they did to the penny?

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It started almost immediately, by the time I started collecting coins in 1968 you rarely found them in circulation, but there are still some floating around out there creating profit opportunities. Just 2 weeks ago the change at my laundromat spit out a 1964 quarter.
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Thanks, been a while since I found one in change. I think the last was a quarter I got out of a slot machine in Biloxi, had to be the mid/late 90s.

A friend did score a handful of Ikes last month at a local credit union, one was silver.

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I find more circulated silver (hundreds) now, than I did roll hunting in 1980.
I even find proof silver coins (dimes).
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Mexico issued bi metallic silver centred coins 1992 to 1995, but when the 1996 issue came out with a copper nickel centre, the silver centred ones did not last for long in circulation, either.


These are really fascinating coins - I picked up a couple (circulated) but they are the only modern circulating coin I wouldn't mind getting UNC examples.
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Here some countries, denomination and date of being demonetized

Austria:
5 Schilling 30. September 1969 - last issue:1968
10 Schilling 31. March 1975 - last issue:1973

Germany-West and Berlin:
5 D-Marks 31. August 1975 - last issue:1974

Switzerland:
1/2, 1, 2 and 5 Franken 30. September 1971 - last issues 1967

Netherlands: 1 and 2 1/2 Gulden 1. January 1973 last issues 1967

Spain: 100 Pesetas, only struck 1966-1969


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I think you miss the french 50 francs (30 grams at .900 silver) which was issued from 1974 to 1980.
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If I remember my reading correctly, the French .900 silver 50 francs was available on request from banks just for the asking, but was never proactively issued for circulation. I suspect that for the period 1974-80, the bullion value of the silver was way below the face value, so the demand for them must have been low, and most remained in the banks.

Krause reports that about 45 million of them were made, to be issued in sets only. I suspect that is only a half truth. I doubt that they all went into sets. According to Krause, they are not found in VF or less condition. That, to me at least, suggests that they did not circulate.

I believe that they were never in normal circulation.
It is one of those 'gray' areas for you to decide if they are NCLT or not.
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The bullion price of silver during 1974 to 1980 was never below $5 per ounce, and peaked at $21 per ounce.

I do not know the corresponding conversion rate of the USD to the Franc for this period. This is important, because it relates to the face value of the coin.

Perhaps a CCF member may be able to consult older edition of World Coins, to shed a little more light on this.
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I also was a child in the 60's, I was pulling silver out of circulation into the late 60's. My mother owned a truck stop and would let me pull out any older coins from the cash register. I can also riding my bike to small mom and pop stores, seeing if they had any walkers halves or Mercury dime for my collection, and they most times had a few for me.

I have never seen it official but I don't think government was pulling silver out at the start. Their job was to provide coins for commerce.
The way I have heard it everyone was pulling silver coins out, so it was hard for them to keep enough coins in circulation.

Also I have heard that there was a problem getting the new blanks, so some silver coins may have been minted as late as 1966, but with the date 1964. The San Francisco mint was open back up to help keep enough coins in circulation. Also notice no mint marks on coins 1965 through 1967, I feel this was just part of the effort to make as many coins as possible, by not taking any extra time with the dies ...just make coins.

I could be wrong on some points ... But over the years there have been some good threads on this subject that are good reads if you want to search for them.
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doug, from my understanding the government minted silver coins till 1966 or 1967 with the date of 1964 and released them in an effort to make the public think they weren't all being yanked out of circulation by hoarders. I think they wouldn't of been taking it out of circulation aggressively while running that program
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