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I'm looking for a Fugio cent with a hole in it, much like this one (courtesy of Google Search):  I don't really have any knowledge of coin collecting (this is supposed to be a gift) so I have no idea where to find something like this. It seems that these aren't valued the same that whole coins are? I'm not really sure...but any help would be greatly appreciated  If this post does not belong here, I apologize. |
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Pillar of the Community
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Welcome! This is indeed the right place for this post. And it is true that prices would reflect that a hole in a Fugio is about as welcome as, oh, thallium in your tea. But as such, there aren't really go-to places to seek out holed coins. Perhaps someone will be along with advice.
Edited by philadelphian
08/15/2013 08:10 am
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Oregon coin geek.....*** GO BEAVS ! ! ! ***
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Welcome, thalliumtea, to the CCF! The example you've posted appears to have been dug. A holed but otherwise attractive VG sold in a 2012 Heritage auction for $184: http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleN...otIdNo=23168 You could spend years, looking for a holed specimen. Is a low price the main factor in your wanting a holed coin? Or, is there another reason? To my experience, dug Fugios for under $100 tend to be more prevalent at coin shows than holed ones. That said, Fugios are very popular and generally scarce. Your best chance of getting an affordable specimen is at a larger show. Cudabob's offering is, IMHO, reasonable. If he has to relist an item, he often lowers his BIN price to a modest degree. And, he's a kindly chap to boot. If I could ID the Familyman's Fugio, I might be a buyer; this, having tried to do so, without success! |
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Thanks for the responses! The main factor is that the guy I'm looking to gift this too likes the charm in the hole (said it'd be even more perfect than an intact coin). I'll look into the larger shows! (although I am sorely tempted by Cubabob's listing :-D )
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Well, Cudabob's offering is probably cheaper and less mentally painful than buying an unholey specimen and punching a hole, yourself. Also, Bob's coin has what can be claimed to be an "original" hole ... If, there is such a thing!?
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The original planchets for the Fugios were so often so bad, that I've seen a pic of at least one that came out of the mint with an original ragged hole. I don't think it's conscionable, though, for this person to purchase an inexpensive Fugio and put a hole in it!
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dang you guys and your love of the Fugio cent. I am starting to catch that particular bug/illness!
-Jay
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Intricately designed by Ben Franklin, our first official coin, issued in colonial times, the first "chain" cent, many minor varieties ... So, what's not to love?
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Well, the purchase has been made! I'll update when it gets here with a picture to see how lucky (or not) I am.
It really does seem to be a lovely coin. The details of the design alone (Fugio, "I flee," for starters) is pretty cool :-)
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Cudabob's offering is, IMHO, reasonable I've bought many old coppers from cudabob and have never had a problem. He's an EAC member and a really good person. Member ANA and EAC "You got to lose to know how to win". Dream On by Aerosmith |
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ExoGuy,
Taking a closer look at familyman's Fugio, I think we can agree it is the 13 obverse, based on the positions of the letters of MIND YOUR relative to the "egg and dart" pattern along the base of the sundial, as well as the orientation of the bottom two cinquefoils.
On the reverse, the position of the first T in STATES just clockwise to the center of the O in ONE rules out reverses R and X. On the KK reverse, the lower right corner of the E touches the band beyond the D in UNITED. So, if you like that BIN price for a holed 13-N, I'd say go for it!
Edited by philadelphian
08/17/2013 10:51 am
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Hi Philly ... While I have some Fugios in my collection, I'm not much into the varieties, and I don't seek out the holey ones per se. I'm into the counterstamps; particularly so, ones that I can attribute or else offer that possibility. I've as yet found no good prospects for the Familyman's specimen. It was likely stamped long after the coin was struck - 1840-50's being the most likely era. As a maverick, I'd not want to pay near the asking price on it. Now, had the Fugio been stamped by say Aner Bradley, an early silversmith and Revolutionary War soldier of note, I might well pay the price, hole or no hole!
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Well, geez, I've gone and forgotten again what happens when we ASSUME (ASS/U/ME)! Should have realized you were trying to attribute the counterstamp, and not the Fugio variety! I guess our avatars should make it clear where each of our respective heads are at!
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Well, Philly, as wise as we may be on some things, we numismatists can often miss the obvious. Been there, done that ...
When and if I can get my photo abilities up to snuff, I'll get around to posting those pics you requested. I'm humbled by some of the other CCFers' abilities in that respect.
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