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Silver Quarter Yellowing

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 Posted 08/18/2013  10:47 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Moichacho to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I have a 1964 quarter that is starting to yellow on the obverse. Any reasoning behind this?

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 Posted 08/18/2013  11:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nalaberong to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Silver reacts with sulfur present in the air (NOT oxygen), and begins to "tarnish".

However, the word "tarnish" usually brings up frightful imaginings of someone scrubbing away at a piece of silver to strip off the whole surface layer - so to avoid this connotation, we like to call it "tone". Tone is harmless (it won't progress to the point where the coin flakes away).

The typical progression is yellow, then dark blue, then black. This is because silver sulfide refracts light differently than the silver underneath - imagine rainbowy oil on water. The water is the silver, the oil is the silver sulfide. Many colours are possible (like with the oil), but to preserve them, the coin must be placed in an airtight container. Otherwise, they will be shortlived as the sulfide layer thickens and changes.

Your coin will probably start looking like burnt toast before becoming completely black, but even minor chemical changes can upset this process, and every silver refinery does it a bit differently. Morgan dollars are well-known for turning rainbow colours - I have a low-purity Mexican peso (10% silver) that's almost green. A cleaned silver coin of mine started to turn orange, and a silver half dollar my dad saved as a kid turned a dark, lustrous red and blue. So who knows?

Or, if you don't want this to happen - put it in a little capsule. It'll stay off-yellow forever.
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 Posted 08/18/2013  11:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Moichacho to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is weird considering the reverse is perfectly clean. As a new collector, I do like the nice clean silver. I also handle my coins with no regard of selling. Perhaps I should rethink my ways and just seal my coins.

First question, how do I get rid of this yellowing.

Second, are 2x2's acceptable, if so where can I find them.
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 Posted 08/18/2013  11:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nalaberong to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Getting rid of this yellowing will involve cleaning it, which will make it worth less.

I tried this too when I was starting out - fresh out of a chemistry course, I thought... "There's got to be a way to flawlessly remove the sulfide without touching the silver!"

There might be, but all the methods that can be done outside of a laboratory will be obvious, even to you (after some practice and once you see other cleaned coins). The problem is that you can't unclean a coin, so if your taste changes you're out of luck (and almost everyone else won't touch it).

However, since 1964 quarters are so common - an attractively coloured one could actually be worth more than a plentiful shiny one.

Your best bet is to enclose it. 2x2s are fine, if you mean the cardboard holders. The clear plastic dual-pocketed flips won't do it. You can buy these at any coin store. If there's none nearby, there are lots on the Internet too.

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 Posted 08/19/2013  07:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JJHFL to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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First question, how do I get rid of this yellowing.


You can "dip" the coin, which I don't really put "dipping" in the same category as cleaning. Dipping is basically just giving your silver coin a bath in a solution made special to remove the oxidation. Some silver coins I like bright white, so I will dip them. Too much is a bad thing though. Do some research on proper methods if you decide to go this route. I mix my dip with about 80% distilled water for a less harsh dip.

A side note, I am sure peoples opinions vary on this. Just like I dont like when people categorize dipping and cleaning as the same, I am sure there are others who despise that I say it is different
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Leave the coin alone because cleaning the coin will ruin any value it may have. Look at it this way toning is very collectible to many people and nice toning usually commands a premium over and above what it numismatic value may be. Who knows you may learn to appreciate toning and if not I'm sure you can make a trade with someone for the same coin not toned.
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 Posted 08/20/2013  08:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Moichacho to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I like toned coins as well, but all of the silver I have found at work except a nickel have been practically white as a bone. I just assumed they would stay white a little longer until I found some 2x2's.
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 Posted 08/20/2013  09:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shootnstarz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Fortunately silver 64 quarters are pretty common so if you're wanting one in BU or so there's plenty out there.

Rick
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