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Fake Toned Jefferson Nickel?

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 Posted 08/20/2013  9:26 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add YoshiRules to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Found this while roll hunting, put it in a card, and put it on ebay. However, I am concerned about its authenticity (a little).

Can someone verify that is isn't a fake or anything? The patch at the bottom of the coin that isn't colored was because I touched it.

The coin is a 1947-P Jefferson nickel, circulated.

Here is the link. I included it because it also has the pictures of the coin as well.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/12115853551....m1558.l2649

Personally, I think it is real because in order for the coin to get toning on one side, it has to have been on the end of some roll. I would enjoy second opinions to reassure myself.

(On a side note, if you want to buy it for yourself, you are more than welcome.)

Thanks,

-Matt
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It is hard to tell AT from NT.

I have seen coins that toned because of what they were exposed to.

Some were similar to yours. They had been stored in the same drawer,
with perfume. The coins all had rainbow toning .. even the Lincoln cents
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The patch at the bottom of the coin that isn't colored was because I touched it.


Well if it came off when you touched it then no that doesn't sound natural.
Also there are tons of ways to tarnish a coin. Just because it is toned on one side doesn't mean it was sitting in a roll for 30 years.
I am going to call AT on this one.
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"Well if it came off when you touched it then no that doesn't sound natural."

Isn't toning just a top layer of stuff over the coin and/or the actual metal reacting in a way the creates unnatural coloring on the metal itself and/or etc. Regardless, I'm curious on more input.

Also, even if the toning is fake, this is one fine looking coin, even if I do say so myself :)
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Isn't toning just a top layer of stuff over the coin and/or the actual metal reacting in a way the creates unnatural coloring on the metal itself and/or etc. Regardless, I'm curious on more input.


No, the toning is a layer of the actual metal itself. It will_not come off under touch.
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in all likelihood that toning was not accelerated, it's probably market acceptable. nickel tones very easily.
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"it's probably market acceptable"

Glad to know :) If it is market acceptable, than ebay is the right place, I guess. Anyone think the price is ok/too high/too low? It is OBO as well, so there is some flexibility.
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I don't see a whole lot wrong with the listing. You're not spreading the hype with a spatula, and the toning doesn't look completely impossible for the issue. Let it run.
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I have a few that are similar, one in the Littleton cellophane. I only payed a few dollars for them. I do have a 1913 or 1916 MS buff that has Monster rainbow toning for lack of a better word. I bought it at a CS from a reputable dealer many years ago. It could be AT or NT but I don't care one way or the other. I have a MS Two Cent coin with gorgeous toning also. It wasn't cheap and it also could be AT or NT. Next time I go to my box I will bring them home and take some pics and upload them.
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"You're not spreading the hype with a spatula"

What? You mean these-->!!!!!!!!!

They work on Craigslist, so I figure I'd give it a go here.
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