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guyod12 New Member United States 17 Posts	Posted 08/22/2013 9:25 pm I just got a roll of nice 1955 S wheat pennies. In that roll I found 5 that have the exact same fill in the lower part of the S mint mark and the top part of the 9 in 1955. Is this a variety type? I couldn't find it on coppercoins.com. I found a couple for sale on ebay. Would love to hear what you think. thanks, Guy Report this Post to the Staff

DrDon Pillar of the Community United States 2624 Posts	Posted 08/22/2013 11:24 pm Small die chip in the "9" and most likely the "S", it's a little blurry. Report this Post to the Staff
guyod12 New Member United States 17 Posts	Posted 08/22/2013 11:41 pm Why are all five exactly the same though? Is that normal? Report this Post to the Staff
SecretGlitch Valued Member United States 237 Posts	Posted 08/22/2013 11:47 pm They all appear to be minted from the same dies. Perfectly normal, they've just been together for almost 60 years. Report this Post to the Staff
guyod12 New Member United States 17 Posts	Posted 08/22/2013 11:58 pm That was my understanding of what a variety was, a mistake in a die that reprints that error over and over again. Which leads me to the question, what is the difference between a variety and this then? Report this Post to the Staff
SecretGlitch Valued Member United States 237 Posts	Posted 08/23/2013 12:08 am Die chips and cracks happen over a die's lifetime, so any die can get chips and cracks such as those seen on coins like these. Very large chips and cracks lead to die breaks and Cuds and other things, all of which are considered errors. Minor chips are pretty common and generally tolerated as being fairly normal and thus not much interest is put on them. Die varieties are created when the die itself is created and put into action, and things like cracks and polish lines and such relate more to what's called the "die state," or the current state of a die during its lifetime as shown on the coin it minted. Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 08/23/2013 12:23 am In the 1950's they used their dies past normal retirement. Thus all kinds of chips, cracks, BIE's, extreme Die Deterioration has been noted. These are just normal errors. That is why you found 5 in your roll. It you counted the die pairs by markers, you could tell how many dies were used in that run that made your coins. I've found as little as 4 die pairs in a roll and 17 die pairs in the zincolns in a run/bin. Varieties happen from coin #1 till it is retired. On your coins the die is aging and now getting close to the LDS/VLDS die states. But they were normal dies when they started. Hope this helps. Report this Post to the Staff
guyod12 New Member United States 17 Posts	Posted 08/23/2013 07:46 am Great thanks that does help! Report this Post to the Staff
Indian1 Pillar of the Community United States 3640 Posts	Posted 08/23/2013 10:09 am I myself would not even put anomalies caused by normal die wear etc. in the error category. These would include but not be limited to chips, cracks, gouges, breaks, Cuds etc. Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 08/23/2013 2:20 pm I consider an error as a one time occurrence. incomplete planchets: https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...ip_Error.jpg https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...nt_SOCOM.jpg https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...or_coins.jpg https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...llar_001.jpg https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...ped_half.jpg indents: https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...chet_OBV.jpg https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...ith_cent.jpg https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...l_Lookin.jpg https://www.coincommunity.com/forum..._Brokage.jpg broad struck (out of collar strikes): https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...lipped_1.jpg https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...lipped_2.jpg https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...finemusi.jpg https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...YPHER_01.jpg https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...ster_125.jpg https://www.coincommunity.com/forum..._Brokage.jpg laminations: https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...F_HOR_01.jpg https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...jasper62.jpg https://www.coincommunity.com/forum..._numismo.jpg https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...ion_peel.jpg https://www.coincommunity.com/forum..._Badthad.jpg Planchet spliting: https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...Glentom1.jpg https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...welch_01.jpg https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...planchet.jpg low pressure strikes: https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...cherrors.jpg https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...Pressure.jpg https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...keldaddy.jpg https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...quiquelo.jpg https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...OABLER_1.jpg https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...OABLER_2.jpg missing clading: https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...OR_COINS.jpg https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...r_strike.jpg Mirror brockage: https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...brockage.jpg https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...LLSWAC08.jpg https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...ke_byers.jpg die caps: https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...brockage.jpg https://www.coincommunity.com/forum..._obverse.jpg https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...ansRmine.jpg https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...searcher.jpg https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...t_IMAGES.jpg https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...ian_Cent.jpg https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...s_Stamps.jpg https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...doorsy20.jpg https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...m_s_Coin.jpg https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...p_Bonded.jpg double struck: https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...heritage.jpg https://www.coincommunity.com/forum..._through.jpg https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...llar_ken.jpg https://www.coincommunity.com/forum..._GACHTOR.jpg https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...OUNT_OBV.jpg https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...OUNT_REV.jpg https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...e_Struck.jpg https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...oof_Cent.jpg https://www.coincommunity.com/forum..._BJ_NEFF.jpg https://www.coincommunity.com/forum..._quarter.jpg wrong stock/metals https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...eDiamond.jpg https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...Planchet.jpg https://www.coincommunity.com/forum..._on_Dime.jpg https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...KEL_1967.jpg https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...Planchet.jpg https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...ME_RE_ST.jpg https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...Planchet.jpg https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...Planchet.jpg Many more than even this to look for. But they are usually a one time happening. Edited by coop 08/23/2013 5:23 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Indian1 Pillar of the Community United States 3640 Posts	Posted 08/23/2013 2:48 pm That's a great list Coop. Would you agree with also including transitionals and incorrect stock/planchet struck coins ? Report this Post to the Staff
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