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Is This Denarius A Fouree Or Real?

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 Posted 08/23/2013  11:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Edge splits can tell lots about if a denarius is fake or not.
If the blank was struck cool or cold, splits are more likely.

When the edge of the blank fails in tension, as a result of spreading under the hammer, metal distress occurs.
The inside surfaces of the split are very rough, where the metal was forced apart.
With a cast coin, the splits are copied from the original, and are much smoother on the inside surfaces of the split, and the split is usually much shallower.

With cast fakes, the is quite often the telltale signs of an edge join, or a filed off casting sprue.

Have a look for tiny spots of peeled off plating. These more often occur around the edge.
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 Posted 08/23/2013  11:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sel that's a good point.
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 Posted 08/24/2013  01:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Comes from close examination of the 'black' collection of fake ancient coins that I maintain.
Most of them were obtained from leading public auctions, in job lots.

Very good for self education. I must admit, I also have a couple of very good educational books on the subject as well.

I got 'stung' once. That's what started me down this line of self education.
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 Posted 08/24/2013  09:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Augustus Maximus to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well aside from that brown spot on the coin and a few cuts , the sides look fine .
Have a look.

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 Posted 08/24/2013  09:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Bit too much out of focus for me, to make a comment of any value. Bit hard to examine surface texture of the metal, inside the splits.
Probably better to look at it yourself with a loupe, and make up your own mind, for your own education.
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