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Is This Denarius A Fouree Or Real?

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Hello every one I am new to this web site and would like to know if my newly purchased denarius of Faustina the Elder is real or a fouree.
The only concerns I have had are the reverse , and on the left side where the E should be in CERES, it looks brown .
Thank you.
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Is it possible to take clearer pictures? It's difficult to tell from these.
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I will do my best echizento , and thanks !
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What I'm seeing doesn't look to bbe silver and the style is certainly off. I'm leaning towards outright fake - but it could be provincial. those darn provincial celators did as they pleased and when they pleased it.
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Can you take another picture of the obverse also. That style is not one I've seen before on her coins.
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Why are the pics reversed ? The images are mirror and the legends read backwards
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Thanks Ben for the input .
Here is the weight
3.33g
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Yes the pics are reversed. Sorry Bad computer camera.
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Mirrored? I feel stupid. Might be real then. Faustina usually faces right ya see.
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Sorry about the reversed images , at my computer at work.
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I cleaned up your images a bit, this is the best I can do.



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The reverse legend is not uncommon, what bothers me is that from what I can tell the bust type is one that I haven't seen before and I haven't been able to find a match for the reverse type. I think this coin isn't an official issue or a fake. Much clearer pictures will be needed to determine which.
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Cleaned it up a bit ; brown spot on corner is still brown,but looks like it is encrusted on the coin

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Much better pictures. The obverse looks OK now that I can see it. Actually I now believe the coin is fine but still haven't match the reverse yet.
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It's pure silver the brown spot has silver under it !, It's real , thank you guys for the help . I have one final question how much do you think it is worth ?
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I am not altogether happy with this piece.
I would really like to have a look at the edges with a loupe.
I agree with BenByfield re style and provincial celators.
Suggestive of artificial patination, but I don't think that is really proof, either way, in this case.
Weight OK.
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For artificial patination it took hours of Lime juice and CLR to get it off. As for the sides they look like they have small cuts in them I will get a picture up in a day or two . PS Thanks for the input .
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