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Dateless Standing Liberty Quarter

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 Posted 08/28/2013  4:14 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Jackb45 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hey guys, I found this in my attic today after renewing my interest in coin collection after finding some old coins cleaning out my Grans old house. I think I collected this SLQ when I was about 11 so it was nice to see it with more experienced eyes knowing what it could be potentially worth.

I know that its a type II or III because of the three stars at the back but I heard that it might be possible to determine the date by analyzing the detail on the coin?

Would also love to know what grade this is as I'm eager to learn more about grading. I would have put it as "Very Good" but I'm a newb so contradict me if I'm wrong!




Dateless-Standing-Liberty-Quarter



Dateless-Standing-Liberty-Quarter


Dateless-Standing-Liberty-Quarter

Ive got some more coins that I could do with getting graded (Just so I can compare my own grades and learn how to improve my grading). I'll post those in another thread so hope to see you around!

Greetings from Ireland :)
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 Posted 08/28/2013  6:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bmanofnbc to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
since the date is worn off I'd say it pre-dates 1925.
And since its an "S" it can only be one of the following:
1917-S
1918-S
1919-S
1920-S
1923-S
1924-S
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08/28/2013 9:34 pm
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 Posted 08/28/2013  6:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Your coin is a Type II Standing Liberty quarter so it would be dated between 1917 and 1924. The Type III design included a recessed date area so that revision solved the problem of premature date wear. The S mintmark narrows it down a little bit more, eliminating the possibility of 1921, and no SLQs were minted at all in 1922. That leaves you with 1917, 1918, 1919, 1920, 1923, and 1924 so take your pick There may be a couple other subtle design differences that can narrow it down a bit further but I will let someone else handle that task as SLQs are not my specialty.
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 Posted 08/28/2013  7:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hesgut to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Back when I used to collect these I became pretty experienced in this type of thing. There are subtle ways of making educated guesses on what date is is based off of what is well struck, what is weakly struck, mintmark, rim, toning patterns, all kinds of things. It's just like identifying dateless Buffalo nickels. You can get pretty good at, but with few exceptions you cannot be 100% correct.

As has already been said, it is obviously either a 17(t2),18,19,20,23, or 24. When I first saw it, 1917-S was jumping out at me, but I think it could be a 1918. It's just a feeling. I would put no money on that, however. I simply used to study these and I have seen a moderate amount of dateless ones and attempted to compare to dated. That was also several years ago.
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 Posted 08/29/2013  08:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oih82w8 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am not sure if the "nic-a-date" product works on silver to try and bring up the date.

Other than was already mentioned, it would be worth melt to me and probably just about anyone one buying silver.
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 Posted 08/29/2013  10:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ProfLiz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It may be "worth" melt, but actually, it's an awfully handsome, honestly worn coin.

I really like how the design elements wear in the SLQ. I think they are attractive in all grades.
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 Posted 08/29/2013  9:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jackb45 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Feel Free to make me an offer ProfLiz :) I do like it very much, it would be a shame to scrap it.

I checked out that Nic a date oih82w8 and unfortunately it doesn't work with silver. I thought that maybe the density of the silver would be different around where the date was and that there might be some way of making a contrast between the densities but that pretty much as far as my thinking goes..

Thanks for all the replies guys. Anyone care to take a punt on what grade it might be?
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 Posted 08/30/2013  02:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add flippy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't think it can be properly graded, due to the total lack of a date
but I may be wrong
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 Posted 08/30/2013  04:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You would need sophisticated scientific equipment to reveal the date in this case, such as XRF.

Liberty is dateless on this coin. Is she also desperate?
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 Posted 08/30/2013  09:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jackb45 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Are you looking to get up on a coin sel? Things must be bad, very bad indeed :D
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 Posted 08/30/2013  8:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Entirely philosophical in this case!
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 Posted 08/31/2013  6:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jackb45 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You would probably better off going with the 1916 version, she's a bit more flamboyant in her dress ;)
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Not sure this will help or not. A long time ago a friend of mine showed me that when you put a polarization filter (scre on attachment) for a camera over a dateless buffalo, sometimes you can see the date. I have not see/heard/done this for years. He just laid the nickel on a tabletop and put the filter over it. When you looked at it at an angle, you could see the date! I don't know if it works with every worn coin either, but thought it was pretty neat at the time.
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 Posted 09/01/2013  03:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add buddy16cat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sometimes when I had a hard time seeing a date, I would do a very high resolution scan, that sometimes can reveal a date.
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