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As the title says I bought a 2011 American Silver Eagle DD date error coin on ebay yesterday Before I purchased the coin I asked the seller about weight and he said it was 31.19 grams... I didn't pay a whole bunch for the coin (less than $80) but its still hurtful to get something that isn't what you expected... I was wondering if anyone knows of any "real" DD date errors? I've seen stories of fakes but not any slabbed or confirmed coins..
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Thanks for the link .. it will come in handy when I can compare the coin to the pictures. ...PEACE...
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What makes you think it's not as described? What were you expecting? These are the specs on a US Silver Eagle, it's almost precisely the same weight (the difference is less than a couple of grains of sand and well within mint tolerance.) http://www.usmint.gov/downloads/min...LVREAGLE.pdfThe doubled die is a well known one, have you taken the time to look at images of what the doubled die is supposed to look like? Before purchasing?
Edited by liveandievarieties 09/02/2013 10:52 pm
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I never found anything on a 2011 DD that didn't pertain to the DD being fake.... I understand they have variations on weight... one of the reasons I joined was to gain knowledge about the coin... the reason I question it is because looking at a closeup of the chin seemed "bearded"... that was one of the indications I read about of a fake coin... but since I learned about the page from coop, I feel better about the purchase and am excited to get it in hand... Ill post pics as soon as I have it...
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honestly, I never saw the "real" DDO from the website until after I purchased the coin... here's the number to the auction on ebay.. 360722303932I notice the 0 in 2011 doesn't have the same egg shape from the DD... I hope it is a DDO.... fingers crossed..
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Hate to say, that does NOT look like the official DDO, but as Coop said MD (which a lot of people on ebay have been recently passing off as the DDO). Sorry :(
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And to add, I just looked at the ebay ad and they never said anything about being the DDO, simply "Date Doubling" which he likely knows very well he is referring to Machine Doubling. A little misleading obviously, but not inaccurate. (i.e. you could attempt to return for refund, but he could stand by his ad without much of an issue.)
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This may be a stupid question but what's the difference?
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From The CCF Glossary: double(d) die A die that has been struck more than once by a hub in misaligned positions, resulting in doubling of design elements. Before the introduction of hubbing, the individual elements of a coin's design were either engraved or punched into the die, so any doubling was limited to a specific element. With hubbed dies, multiple impressions are needed from the hub to make a single die with adequate detail. When shifting occurs in the alignment between the hub and the die, the die ends up with some of its features doubled - then imparts this doubling to every coin it strikes. The coins struck from such dies are called doubled-die errors - the most famous being the 1955 Doubled Die Lincoln Cent. PCGS uses doubled die as the designation. From Google: In mechanical, or Machine Doubling, the doubled image results from mechanical issues during the striking of the coin, such as the coin shifting during striking, or the die itself being jarred out of position as a result of vibration or improper coin press maintenance. Mechanical, machine, and Strike Doubling are all considered by purists to be forms of damage, and are therefore not collectible as an error coin.
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MD versus DD use to get me all the time... Still does once in awhile to this day. So dont feel that was a stupid question at all. Yes, I believe MD is technically considered an error, however it is not an error that adds a premium value to a coin.
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thank you biokemist6.... so that leaves me with two options, I can take the 76 dollar loss and leave crappy feedback or I could get my money back because the item is not as described... hmmmm what to do what to do?....
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