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1814/3 Capped Bust Half. O-101.

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This is probably my favorite of today's pick-ups. This die was completely worn out and the overdate is very clear. SsuperDdave, if you are looking ...... what are your thoughts? Also, these pics were taken in the sun. The coins look much better than in the pics.

1814/3-Capped-Bust-Half.--O-101.

1814/3-Capped-Bust-Half.--O-101.
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No one likes my 1814/3? It's feeling are hurt. I call it barely F-12. That's because I now own it. Before I owned it, it was VG. : )
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I'm thinking your coin is better than F-12

Take a look at this one.
http://www.greatcollections.com/Coi...F-12-Details
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This coin likely looked worn in MS. I will probably assign it F-12. I remember when I first started collecting CBH's, if I saw a coin like this I thought it had damage/problems. I would like to see a PCGS F-12 to F-15 examples to compare it to.
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I agree this is an F-12 grade.

I also have this coin as a O-101a (R-2). The die crack through the date is a big give-a-away (plus other evident indications).

I also see evidence of a die clash under the eagle's left wing (looking at it).



Pictures of Mozin's 1814 CBH O-101a on CoinZip.com.


1814/3-Capped-Bust-Half.--O-101. 1814/3-Capped-Bust-Half.--O-101.


Mozin's description of this Overton/coin:


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Some diagnostics for 1814/3 O-101a R2:

Obverse: Star 1 points to lower edge of dentil. "4" cut over "3". The O-101 prime, without ANY obverse die cracks, is now R6. Normally this overdate shows a crack from edge opposite end of bust, through stars 1-6, across cap, and through all stars on the right. The coin pictured here has the die crack under the date, and exhibits extreme clashing.

Reverse: Dentils above second "T" in "STATES" are too large, almost touching the "T". The dentil at the left is attached to the "T" by a die defect line. "I" centered under right side of "T". The coin pictured exhibits extreme clashing.
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Thanks Moe! Seeing this one makes me realize those dies were still producing a good looking coin. My rims are a little more worn than I thought, if it started out like the one pictured That coin looks like an EF-45. Is it yours?
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Is it yours?


I wish! Nope, it's Mozin's. He posts MANY of the Capped Bust half dollars on the Coinzip/proboards.com web site. It's awesome!



But, come to think of it, I DO have one like yours!!


Here's mine:

1814/3 Capped Bust Half Dollar O-101a/R-2

1814/3-Capped-Bust-Half.--O-101. 1814/3-Capped-Bust-Half.--O-101.
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Nice one! The feathers are worn about the same on ours, but my rims look a little more oblitterated than yours. Do you think that it is all due to wear, or possibly a later die state?
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I would suspect that wear would be the major factor. (But, you can tell, none of the strikes shown are particularly denticle-complete with this die marriage.)
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