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Pillar of the Community
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Valued Member
Canada
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I wouldn't want to spend significant money based on those low quality pictures alone, that's for sure.
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
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Yeah.. not great pictures for a high priced coin, and I agree with artdio, MS-63 at best if even that.  |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
2495 Posts |
The secret to this coin business is not knowing how to grade....it's knowing how ICCS grades.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I know this seller, maybe I should ask him if I can see it in person ;) The strike isn't outstanding, but there seems to be very few actual contact marks. What looks like "marks" are streaks/breaks in the toning. Common on deeply toned coins. Below is an example of one of mine.  |
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 Canada
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Look at the surfaces of the coin through the toning... not the toning itself...
"Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I agree with pokerman. Although I'm not convinced on the 65 grade, I don't think the fields are as roughed up as they may appear. I've bought a few items from this seller, and his pictures never do the coins justice.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I took another good look, and I'm seeing a very mark-free coin. I'd even go as far as saying: if the strike were better, it would be in a 66 holder.
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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This coin would not even make MS60. There is no definition in the beard, indicating some wear. Mackennal busts were used on George V1 copper and silver coins in Australia. Perhaps that lack of detail may be in the master die or hubs, as happened on later dates on the obverse for Mercury dimes. If that is the case, then MS62. Too many light scrapes on this one to be any higher. |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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sel - Lack of definition in the beard/moustache isn't always indicative of wear. I see no wear on the eyebrow, the ear, nor any of the crown.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Everything seems kind of soft in that ebay pic. Why is it that such an expensive coin as that 36 is showing with somewhat unclear pics? I never understand this aspect of ebay listings. Would the 34 here be a stronger strike and in high grade, and does strike make a difference? How would this 34 show differently if side by side with the above 36?  ' ' ' ' Edited by DEVLEC
09/10/2013 12:02 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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A sharper strike DOES make a difference to the value, but grading is independent of that.
Grading can be made more difficult, because a weak strike with a little wear can look much the same as a sharp strike with more wear. Some areas of a coin with low relief can be more sharply struck than the high points. Sometimes master dies or hubs can be the cause of such problems.
Beard detail on DEVLEC's coin is sharper, but the jacket detail on Pokermandude's coin is a little sharper. Different hubs are probably the reason for the differences.
When I offered my grading opinion, I was not able to completely discern the difference between them, from the pictures presented. That is why I said MS60 minus, AND MS62.
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