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1972 LMC - MD? Det. Die? DDO?

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 Posted 09/16/2013  5:42 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add JJHFL to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Help me pin this one down please? Simple Machine Doubling? Deteriorated Die? Possible DDO? I only see doubling on the "72", maybe the "19". No other areas look affected... at least that I have caught yet. Thoughts? Thanks as always!
1972-LMC---MD?-Det.-Die?-DDO?
1972-LMC---MD?-Det.-Die?-DDO?
1972-LMC---MD?-Det.-Die?-DDO?
1972-LMC---MD?-Det.-Die?-DDO?
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1972-LMC---MD?-Det.-Die?-DDO?
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 Posted 09/16/2013  5:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jay4202472000 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Based on LIBERTY, it looks like the Master Die Doubling, but the date looks like MD to me.
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The date is MD. I can't really see any other doubling.
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If there isn't any other doubling, it could be Machine Doubling. IF this coin is laid flat in the obverse full picture it looks like the rim on the liberty side is a bit wider. Since the planchet was a tad off, it could have affected the way the coin ejected. If you have access to a microscope, that may help. All you need is something like a 40x powered one. Stereo microscopes work better than any other.

This one is sort of backwards from an $8.00 version of the 72 DDO. Its listed as CONECA: 9-O-VIII. But again, its backwards. Its on Page 151 or so in the latest CP guide
Wexler mentions that there was an issue with the master dies that were created in 1972, and that they look like DDO's but are not. One of the biggest giveaways was the doubled "N" on the word "IN" on the obverse. The defective die shows a really skinny "N" on top of an "N".... a defect, vice DDO. It affected about 60% of the near 3 BILLION coins they made in 1972.

I had to research the 1972 again and knock out the cobwebs, because I am getting a 5,000 count 1972 Mint sealed bag this week !

There are nine DDO varieties listed in the Whitman Cherry Pickers Guide.

Places like Coppercoins.com is a resource to look up varieties as well;
Slap in just the year you wish to look over and check the location of the mint, then hit search.
http://www.coppercoins.com/advsearch.php
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Thanks guys. Was figuring on MD, but figured id ask for some extra eyes.
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Looks like the classic hub doubling on most 1972's along with MD.That's my Two Cents
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