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Valued Member
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Here is one that I found interesting. There is a raised line from the rim, though it doesn't seem to go onto the rim, up toward liberty. I scanned it and blew it up some so that you can see. As I said, it is raised and the height of it is uniform. So what is up with this? The date of the penny is 1984, but I don't think that it is the typical gas under the copper, though I certainly could be wrong and the reason for discounting that is the straightness and uniformity of it. But I am here to learn, so... - Tony  |
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It's possible it could be a very very straight die crack but I doubt it. Gas is also a possibility and more likely. Coppercoins or gary should be around to give a better answer
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yeah, I sorta don't think that it is a die crack. Gas is probably what it is, but I haven't seen gas examples that were that straight and uniform.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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This looks more like a cut to me. if you look at the photo that I added the arrows to look close to the rim you will see what looks like a ding. that is where the sharp object ended it's run down your coin. it will look like a mound to you but after you see a few of them you will look at the other side of the mound and see the ditch.. hope that helps Gary too  |
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nope, no ditch on either side of the mound. Just flat coin. It really doesn't look much like a cut to me. That is what I first thought when I saw it, but I rotated it at an angle to my light and it really is just a mound.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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It could be a gas line or it is also possible that it is a die gouge. Think "Speared Buffalo" variety nickel, only on a Lincoln Cent under LIBERTY. A clearer pic would be able to differentiate between the two. Edited by biokemist6
06/12/2007 2:18 pm
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Valued Member
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I know it is pretty hard to tell with a scanned picture so if someone would volunteer to look at it in hand, I'd be happy to send it to them. It is no earth shattering item, but it does have me puzzled.
- tony
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If it was a cut and was deep enough the zinc should show ,, this looks like the plating is undisturbed ,, I'm thinking along with bio that it could be a die gouge .
Metalman
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United States
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I just looked at the bit under a microscope here at work. Unfortunately, I cannot get a micro photograph because we just aren't set up to do that. Anyway, as I reported, there is no ditch to either side of the line. The line stops just short of the rim and terminates in an approximately 45 degree angle. The other end toward liberty is slightly bent just prior to the termination and the very end is ragged. The line has a very nearly hexagonal shape to it.
What it looks like is a piece of wire, but I can't imagine how that would work. If there was a piece of wire on the die face, there ought to be an indentation right? And a piece of wire would be too soft to make an impression on the die face itself. But the line does not look like a piece of wire that is embedded into the face of the penny, but rather it looks like the metal of the penny didn't get pressed flat during striking.
It is pretty interesting - at least to me.
- Tony
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Bedrock of the Community
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But the line does not look like a piece of wire that is embedded into the face of the penny, but rather it looks like the metal of the penny didn't get pressed flat during striking.
Wire strike-through will create an indentation. I think that the die used to strike the coin was gouged in some manner, either the die was dropped on something leaving a dent or a tool hit the surface of the die making a mark. A depression on the surface of a die will leave a raised area on the coin. Look at "Speared Buffalos" on ebay or search the forum, I know at least a couple members have one (I think Crystalk64 is one). That one is a great example of a die gouge. BTW, just because I compared yours to a Speared buffalo, do not think that your coin will be worth that much. The location of the gouge gives the buffalo its value, and of course the buffalo was a 6 month type coin too. |
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thanks biokemist,
I really don't care how much it is worth since I don't intend on selling it. I just think that error coins are pretty neat and I want to learn when I really have an error example and also how that error might have occurred. As for selling a coin, I'm not so interested.
laters - tony
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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if it is a mound then it is more than likely a gas bubble. and that would make more sense than anything else.
Metalman is correct that if a cut you would see the zinc. I did not think it through that deep lol.
Gary too
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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If it's raised (which I cannot be convinced of from the image) it's a die gouge. Bubbles don't have very sharp (or straight) edges.
If it's not raised, it's either a struck through or a scrape.
In the end, it's not possible for anyone to determine what this is for sure from the image provided.
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