Thinking About This Coin To Get Slabbed - Opinions?

looks like it has been lightly circulated and cleaned, still a very nice looking coin!!

So is the consensus that it has been cleaned? I bought it from the same dealer that I buy from all the time and I know he certainly wouldn't have cleaned it and it was from his back closet so he has probably had it for years.

On those Lafayette's what characteristics do you look for to grade as there is nothing obvious to me that it has been circulated.

thanks
Tim

I agree with the others, it's an AU details grade coin.

On the Lafayette: Note the hairlines most visible on the reverse, upper right. Many parallel hairlines like that is a classic sign of a brushing. It's a possibility that something of that nature could have happened in another fashion - being dragged across a coarse tablecloth, for instance - but the vast majority of such lines come from cleaning and that's what a seasoned collector is going to think of when they see them.

I honestly see circulation wear on this coin.

On the Columbian: The hairlines are most noticeable on the upper right of both obverse and reverse. I may be mistaken about it having circulated, although I see what looks like wear on the globes, sails and bottom of the hair. It must be noted that Columbians circulated fairly commonly for a Commemorative, and you'd assume with one of those that what looks like circulation, probably is.

ebay will not police what you choose to put in your auction copy at the moment you post it. They don't have the manpower. It's on you to be cognizant of their rules and follow them; their only recourse is to have it brought to their notice by an outside report, and then investigate. Your PCI listing is something I'd normally report to them immediately, but since you've posted here as a member and seem quite honest about it I'd rather give you the benefit of the doubt. The fact that you spelled the grade out, though, tends to indicate that you've an idea what you're doing and it's not a practice which makes friends easily in a place like Coin Community.

There is nothing wrong with using the letter descriptions of grade which seems to be your normal practice - VG, VF, etc. If you choose to claim that you think the PCI grade is accurate - without mentioning the specific number - I think that would fly, too.

Shame about the laffy, it would be a real nice AU example if not for the cleaning/retoning. :(

I have been thinking about this one. While cleaned, slabbing could help with authenticity if it is not selling on ebay. These are heavily counterfeited so maybe an ANACS slab, even if details, would help with a sale.

It is actually St. Piron, Who is the Patron Saint of Cornwall, (like St. George is to England, St. Patrick is to Ireland, and St. Andrew is to Scotland)

Cornwall is one of the 6 Celtic Nations (Ireland, Scotland, Wales, Isle of Man, Brittany being the other 5) although we have long since been absorbed into England. We have our own language, Tartan etc. and, like the rest of the Celtic Nations, we are famous for Rugby and our drinking prowess (hence the beer). The St Piron Flag is black with a white cross that you can see in the logo and we are also famous for tin mines and Cornish Pasties (meat pies).

I want to change the Mill stone for a Coin at some point but I don't have photoshop any more so it will have to wait.

Also my company name "Oggyland LLC" is actually another name for Cornwall as the Pastie is also called an Oggy. The Pie sellers use to cry out OGGY OGGY OGGY and if you wanted to buy a pie you shouted back OI OI OI and that is where that famous Rugby Call and response came from.


Anyhow, sorry for the long answer, but you did ask LOL! BTW I have been living in the US for some time now.

This is a visually pleasing LaFayette Dollar, and I concur with the grade being in the XF+ range. Most of the higher grade, mildly circulated examples of these that I've seen have been cleaned to some degree. They were often carried about as "pocket pieces," intended to pique curiosity and stimulate discussion.

IMHO, this coin "is what it is" and not worth the expense of certification. I don't see a slab enhancing the value.