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Abbreviations On Coin Ads: What Do They Mean?

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I'm on this forum because I found a coin I am trying to determine the value of. I went to ebay to look it up and on other websites, but the values are wildly varied for the same coin (same year, same apparent condition). Can someone give me the 101 course on this to help me out? The coin is a 1866 Indian Head penny in a slightly worn condition. Thanks for any help you can offer.
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 Posted 09/30/2013  3:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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I moved your welcome post to the Main Coin Forum for the proper attention.
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Yep, prices can vary widely.

I recommend that you post photos of the obverse and the reverse. Someone will come along and tell you what you need to know shortly thereafter.

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Oh yeah, to answer your question:

PCGS = Professional Coin Grading Service

MS64 = Mint State 64 (64 out of a possible 70)

RD = red (copper turns dark usually)


I took those abbreviations from one listing on the bay. There is another graded/slabbed coin of the same year that is RB, which means red/brown, and it is selling for less. And then there is BN which is for copper cents that have turned brown.


XF + extra fine, which, as you probably noticed, is nowhere near as new looking at the Mint State coins.


If the slab or the ad copy says "details" is usually means that the coin was cleaned which greatly reduces its value.


Hope that helps.
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Do you think you could post a link to the ad or a picture of the coin? It would make it much easier for the members of the forum to help. If there are abbreviations that you are unsure of, you could check the glossary or post a list of them and someone should be able to help.
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There are 17 unslabbed 1866s listed now, so it's hard to pick one to dissect.

Some thoughts

With circulated Indians, one of the things to look at is the liberty on the headband - a "full liberty" is the sign of a better grade coin. Above that is the tips of the feathers.

PGCS (one of the grading services) has a website/app - http://www.pcgs.com/photograde/

Compare the pictures (F12, VF30, EF40) with what you are seeing in the for sale pictures.


You will find most coins on ebay are over-graded at least two steps (IMNSHO)


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Thanks for all your help guys. Will try to post a pic soon, but don't know if I have a camera that will zoom in and get good detail. I'll try.
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Try to remember that on ebay, anyone can ask anything they want for anything. If they want way to much but someone pays it, that is just life. If no one pays it, they can always lower the price. If you want you can ask a million dollars for something worthless. If you get it, great I guess.
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