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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I'm trying to educate myself on spotting cleaned and uncleaned coins. I can't really seem to see it on copper coins(unless it was done really badly and obviously looks like it). I found this online "Copper/bronze/brass coins that have been cleaned have an unnatural color, often looking like a toned gold coin". Would the coin below it be an example of it?  |
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Valued Member
United States
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I'm no expert either, but it doesn't looked "cleaned", maybe dipped in acetone, but it's hard to tell. It's a nice looking coin, though.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Guido, thanks for your reply. I thought it was because it looks too brights and golden. Does anyone know where I can find an example of how an cleaned large cent would look like?
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Valued Member
United States
459 Posts |
Most of the dipped, cleaned, or AT coppers I've seen have an orange/gold color.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2443 Posts |
I'm confused. Is dipping considered as a cleaned coin? It seems that a lot of people accept it, and some of the grading companies do too. But I still seems some coins that were dipped were graded as clean. Also, I would assume that dipping works better with silver coins, and not in this case, copper?
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Moderator
 United States
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IMHO it looks cleaned (dipped). Does the obv look as bright?
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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This one seems to look good to me. It appears to have it's original luster. Is there photos of the other coins in the lot?
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Moderator
United States
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There is no way to conclude anything based on that picture. I don't believe the color representation is even close to true - we have no way of knowing what the actual color of the background is, nor what the photographer's skill level might be. Cameras do not automatically get the color right, especially on such a bright background. I always suspect any seller who chooses to use other than black, white or gray for a background.
If the picture is accurate, that's a "run away fast" coin.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I agree with SuperDave...unless you've seen the coin personally and can attest that the color seen in the photo is correct, then we have no way of knowing it's true color. (Look at my avatar...and silver German 5 mark piece. Because I used warm lighting, it looks golden, but in "the flesh" it is as silver as can be.)
And if the picture has been photoshopped, then the photographer can have altered the surface color any number of ways.
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06/13/2007 09:25 am
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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No easy way to tell by that photo.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I too agree it is difficult to tell from the photo. The color rendition may cause different effects that are not really there. AS to cleaned coins being accepted. I've bought many cleaned coins at coin shows due to the extreamely low prices. Over the years I've taken many of these and placed on a window ledge in the kitchen. Over a period of time the coins became less cleaned looking so a few of them I sent for grading and about half came back cleaned but the other half went through as normal. Must be something we are cooking in the kitchen.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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it would be impossible to tell from the pic that you have. here is the same coin that I fixed the color on. it could be that the seller has no idea how to use his/her photo program. but I agree with SuperDave run away run away.   i think if I seen the two I would buy the one I fixed "if I had it in hand" Gary too |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Thanks for everyone's reply. I ended up buying the coin. When I get it, I'll post some better pics up.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I hesitated to comment on this coin since I agree with what everyone is saying about the effect different lighting will have on the photo. Nevertheless, here's my Two Cents about this one cent. The reverse design of this coin is that of either a classic head (1808-1814) or matron head (1816-1839) cent. At first glance it appears to have original mint-red luster. I would suspect the coin is either seriously dipped or else the image had been altered, just because large cents from these years with original red color are extremely rare. I would guess this cent would cost thousands of dollars if the color is original and the coin is problem free. Or am I way off base? |
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United States
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Just putting your 2 cents (errr 1 cents) in on this one, Jaobler?  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I agree, when I first saw it I also thought that it had it's original red color at first glance, but I believe it's cleaned though, but it doesn't look that bad. I'll see when I get it in my hands.
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Posted 06/13/2007 02:32 am
