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2.7 Gram 1962 D Lincoln Cent

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The odd thing about it is that there is virtually NO WEAR.

Here is a copy of the email I sent to the "coindoc" (no reply yet)

I found this coin in a roll, it weighs in at 2.7 grams and has minimal wear. I could find no data for anything similar on your site. Hence the email.

It has some peculiar thin lettering where it says United States of America on the reverse, seems like it may have been a thin planchet or flan, and did not stamp some of the letters to full thickness?

Please advise as to what this may be or where to find more data.

Thank You,

Robert



No pix, I have had ZERO luck with closeups, no macro lense on a camera for an iPhone! lol

Comments?
Suggestions?

Any info is appreciated!
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Actually there is a macro lens for cell phones just FYI good luck with the coin
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Could be a thinned planchet or an acid dipped example. You never know till see it with a great image.
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Interesting weight, the 1954-D shown below is also 2.7 grams(42 grains).

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OK, Looks like I need a good pic series.
Any suggestions on light source or any of that? I guess I could take a high resolution
shot and blow it up. Worth a try!
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PS: Found some free macro-lens info on iPhones :D

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to CCF. This may help.https://goccf.com/t/116512
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Here is a tapered planchet:
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@coop
So the top of the obverse and bottom of the reverse are thinner, resulting in the
loss of detail and reduced weight. I See!
Mine does not have any of these features, I will try and get pix up by the weekend.
The 1962D cent feels maybe slightly thinner, all the way thru. That would likely be
a rare find, for I have not seen that described or pictured yet. But I am not a big
time collector, mostly a Silver Stacker, and I also save Copper Cents and Nickels.
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Here are the long awaited photos!
Sorry for the delay guys, working OT and pretty busy...
I can try and get better shots but need some suggestions.
I used a magnifier to good effect, seems my biggest
problems are lighting and shadowing



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The biggest thing that stands out to me is the
STATES OF
with the STA looking thinner (flatter) and the S O looking flatter as well. Ground off or was the planchet thinner?
Perhaps I need to mic the rim and high spots on the coin, and as you can see, no cleaning by me at least, and none obvious to my eye.

Oh well, there is the first attempt at a photo. Maybe a light box and camera (iPhone) stand?
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Does not appear acid dipped.
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Seems to be pretty normal. Just a tad underweight
that's about it. Could of been the alloy mix or the
thickness of the stock etc.
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Quote:
I can try and get better shots but need some suggestions.


Start here:

https://goccf.com/t/160092

The iPhone has, by a very wide margin, the finest camera for taking coin images of any cellphone. It's capabilities are staggering, and much better than the majority of point-and-shoot cameras. You should be able to post images here which are fully the equal (at forum-posting size) of any expensive bespoke camera/macro lens combo.
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The rims look weak like a thinned planchet would look like.
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You can try outside lighting, or for an indoor light, I personally use two tabletop LED lights from Walmart that costs 12 bucks each with an adjustable goose neck.

I like the AmScope Stereo microscopes and bought a camera for it as well. eye strain and frustration level when looking over coins is now minimal.
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Thanks to ALL!
Such a good community! I will attempt to get better photos, but it is an old
iPhone 3GS, and the really good cameras started on the iPhone 4, from what I
am seeing, but I am sure I can do a good bit better than the above 4 pix. So
I have a new agenda, here is what I think:

1. Better pix, through lighting and a camera stand, and learn the 3GS tricks.
2. Micrometer measurements of the thickness of the item.
3. Possible PCGS or ANACS, NGC (which is best for this?).
4. Do any of these services offer cleaning that will not hurt the value of the coin?
(ultrasonic or other non-destructive methods) I have only seen this on sea treasure
retrieval on precious metal coinage. I have heard/read cleaning is a no-no!

Any further suggestions are greatly appreciated!
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